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Hya,
My name is Brian Binnerup, I develop a program called "My Movies" (http://www.mymovies.dk), which is a movie collection program.
Behind the program is our service with high quality meta-data for more than 300.000 DVD's, Blu-ray's and HD DVD's.
In the latest pre release of the program, it stores meta-data for TViX units, Netgear EVA8000 units and Popcorn Hour YAMJ add-on as well as the XBMC software.
We would like to extend this meta-data storage to as many units as possible, to allow users to use our high-quality meta-data, and Collection Management program for all their media players.
As it is nearly impossible within the economy available to purchase every single media player, I would like some help from a user of the HDI players, who has some experience with the aai image approch on the unit.
What I hope to accomplish would be to automatically store the files needed for the unit to display meta-data such as cover art, synopsis, actors, directors, ratings, ect.
Is anyone interested in helping out with this? Your part in it will be to describe the aai functionality to me, take photos of how it appears on screen, and test some files to see how it works.
My Movies contains technology to monitor video folders, and automatically add meta-data to the folders, uniquely by disc id's identifying VIDEO_TS folders, DVD ISO files and Blu-ray ISO files. Other video types is identified by folder names.
Regards,
Brian Binnerup
My Movies
Hi Brian,
nice to have you on board! I have been using your mce plugin since the beginning, but dropped it after you implemented the sql database in order to store the meta data. Since then it wasn't that simple to use in my nas environment than before... But anyway: Great tool!
In order to clear things up and to give you a short overview what is possible with the dune players:
1.) AAI is just an alternative image file format used by the dune players (probably because of decoding speed and maybe less processing power for the decoding process than when using jpegs)
2.) The dune players are able to display directories as an icon. The way these icons are displayed (size, position, how many icons on one screen) is being configured within configuration files named "dune_folder.txt"). The following link gives you some more detailed information: http://hdi.co.il/firmware/misc/dune_folder_howto.txt
So, if for expample you would like to display meta data for a movie, you have to render this information into a "graphical" AAI-file and save this file, besides the needed config file "dune_folder.txt" into the movie directory.
There is yet no possibility to read metadata from a server based database or anything else. It's all based on the filesystem only!
I hope this gives you a first overview of what is possible. It would be great if your software could be used in order to create the needed AAI and config files based on your meta collection.
Once again: Great to have you on board!
TheMule!
I added "bare minimum" support of mymovies.xml to llink. Had to extend it a tiny bit as there was (back then anyway) no way to store imdb url and what not.
Hya,
My name is Brian Binnerup, I develop a program called "My Movies" (http://www.mymovies.dk), which is a movie collection program.
Hi Brian, are you planning to add a Linux version of your program?
If you look at his page it's only windoze yada yada... so do not get your hopes up :)
I have been using your mce plugin since the beginning, but dropped it after you implemented the sql database in order to store the meta data.
This was unfortunately a needed step to support Vista X64, as no file based database with the needed features came with a native X64 driver (not even SQL Embedded).
1.) AAI is just an alternative image file format used by the dune players
That far I have got - I have also found that if no specificiations is available on these, the AAImageGen.exe can be used from command line to create these.
2.) The dune players are able to display directories as an icon. The way these icons are displayed (size, position, how many icons on one screen) is being configured within configuration files named "dune_folder.txt"). The following link gives you some more detailed information: http://hdi.co.il/firmware/misc/dune_folder_howto.txt
Ok - that I also think I have covered.
So, if for expample you would like to display meta data for a movie, you have to render this information into a "graphical" AAI-file and save this file, besides the needed config file "dune_folder.txt" into the movie directory.
There is yet no possibility to read metadata from a server based database or anything else. It's all based on the filesystem only!
That was also about as far as I got - creating the image is not a problem, this is similar to what we do on the TViX, where a TViX.jpg with the meta-data is simply created.
But, what I lack is to know if it displays a list of "folders", and when you click a folder, it starts the playback, or if you can get it to forward to a new image with the meta-data, and start the playback from there?
As I see it, the best way would be if we store the "folder.jpg" perhaps in a merged image with a folder that matches the UI on the device to this AAI, and then when you click on that, we have another AAI file generated which contains synopsis, cast, ratings, ect. ect.
Is this something that can be done?
If anyone is interested in taking a chat on Windows Messenger regarding it, that would help me a lot - my account is brian@binnerup.dk.
Regards,
Brian
Hi Brian, are you planning to add a Linux version of your program?
No - our back-end is tied so much with Microsoft .NET that it would be a from the top development, and this simply does not make sense.
What we are currently doing is letting users use the back-end Collection Management to store meta-data for other environments, and those environment could be network players, Linux Media Center front-ends, ect. I think that XBMC which reads our generated meta-data runs on Linux.
However managing the meta-data is going to continue to be a Windows thing.
I added "bare minimum" support of mymovies.xml to llink. Had to extend it a tiny bit as there was (back then anyway) no way to store imdb url and what not.
I am still not totally sure what llink does, but I have seen others mention that it reads our XML files.
The latest versions of the programs has an IMDB id (not full url, but that you can easily create then) stored in the XML file.
You are very welcome to contact me on brian@binnerup.dk if you need any details to improve the support. We are looking to creating some documentation pages for the users of different environments, so that they can see how to use the My Movies back-end with the environment(s) they use.
Since then it wasn't that simple to use in my nas environment than before... But anyway: Great tool!
I know there are many of you out there who does not like Windows based storage devices, but we have actually created a "My Movies for Windows Home Server", and try to get users to use a home server because of the options on that platform.
With the home server software, you plug in an USB DVD or Blu-ray drive, and you get full automated disc copying of DVD, Blu-ray or audio discs, including meta-data - this basically means that you stuff in your DVD, it is then uniquely identified, and copied to the storage - the DVD can be stored as VIDEO_TS or ISO, Blu-ray's can be stored as BDMV or ISO. In the process, it adds meta-data to My Movies, and stores meta-data for all the specified units (which is where we hope to add the BD Prime), meaning that there is absolutely no manual things to do besides inserting the disc and waiting for it to eject.
The same thing goes for audio CD's that can be copied to WAV, MP3, WMA or Flac, or a combination of two if you would like a primary format, and a mobile device format. Again, full automated with meta-data added and stored in the files in the process.
Then the movie monitoring feature is running as a service on the WHS also, which can identify and add meta-data for existing movies copied to the storage.
This is features that we can't create on a NAS device, and it means that the SQL Server runs on the Windows Home Server, and not on the clients that you can connect to the home server directly without any configuration, and then use the client to edit the meta-data if you would like to do that.
As a software, this is not that interesting to users who like to do everything themselves, but for the novice users who just would like to stick in a disc into a drive, and have everything done automatically, it is a great option. It means that you would not need to add or create any meta-data files manually, as everything is done for you.
Regards,
Brian
I appreciate your efforts and for sure the tagretgroup you're aiming at is/will be pleased with your homeserver solution.
Personally i'm not convinced of the limitations of the home server itself and i would bet that microsoft will limit the possibilities you achieved with your "ripping plugin" in future version of the home server... But till then it's a very user friendly solution!
But this is a liitle offtopic now, so let's continue to talk about how one can combine your metadata solution with the dune players...
TheMule!
Hi Brian, are you planning to add a Linux version of your program?
No - our back-end is tied so much with Microsoft .NET that it would be a from the top development, and this simply does not make sense.
What we are currently doing is letting users use the back-end Collection Management to store meta-data for other environments, and those environment could be network players, Linux Media Center front-ends, ect. I think that XBMC which reads our generated meta-data runs on Linux.
However managing the meta-data is going to continue to be a Windows thing.
Have you looked at Mono? It is a .NET "clone" from the Gnome foundation
that runs on most Unix variants (Linux, Solaris, *BSD) and Windows.
Maybe you could give that a try. If you can get it to work with that, you instantly broaden your audience. :-)
Personally i'm not convinced of the limitations of the home server itself and i would bet that microsoft will limit the possibilities you achieved with your "ripping plugin" in future version of the home server...
I can't imagine why and how they should.
But this is a liitle offtopic now, so let's continue to talk about how one can combine your metadata solution with the dune players...
I agree ;-)
Have you looked at Mono? It is a .NET "clone" from the Gnome foundation
that runs on most Unix variants (Linux, Solaris, *BSD) and Windows.
Maybe you could give that a try. If you can get it to work with that, you instantly broaden your audience. :-)
I am aware of Mono, but we use so many Windows specific things that it's not just a one week job ;-)
playedalive
07-03-09, 00:50
hi binnerup, I am a long time my movies user, even though I droped using vmc for the hdi bd prime I still use the my movies tool to retrive movie artwork. If you are looking for any beta testers for a bdprime version of your program then send me a pm as I will be more than happy enough to test it out.
My current work flow is I use my movies to retrive artwork and then use the idune tool to scan for the Image files and convert them to the aai format and generate the dune_folder file. If the tool could intergrate this process I would be extremely happy.
Never got to say thanks for the program so thank you for your hard work and I hope to see some interesting future progress.
playedalive: Can you by any chance catch me on Windows Messenger (brian@binnerup.dk) or Skype (brianbinnerup).
I still need some details that you likely can give me as a user of the device.
This is basically how the devices lists things, and what we can do there.
Regards,
Brian
playedalive
07-03-09, 13:28
hi would think the user veliferum would be a better source of information on exactly how the dune_folder.txt file works.
In terms of what the device lists the only thing it can show so far are icons for folders and choosing how they are laid out eg 4 columns by 2 rows ect. If by meta data you mean things like movie description, genre ect there is currently nothing to support this.
I already explained it in the second post of this thread: You have to render the metadata into an .aai file. There is no possibility to show metadata from a database or textfile or whatever other source!
TheMule!
Personally I want to close this thread the guy is getting support for his windoze only app... IMHO that is proof of having bad taste...
other thoughts I might consider?
playedalive
08-03-09, 14:27
ok, closing a thread because an app is windows only makes zero sense. A thought you might consider is Windows is still 90% + of the market so most people use windows.
yadayadayada.... it's because he is getting free support for his application.
and there is no such thing as a free lunch :)
yadayadayada.... it's because he is getting free support for his application.
and there is no such thing as a free lunch :)
Well....the Sun is free... like IDune is.... :D
Veliferum
... Well....the Sun is free... like IDune is.... :D
Veliferum
That is what I'm aiming at :)
... Well....the Sun is free... like IDune is.... :D
Veliferum
That is what I'm aiming at :)
Unfortunately neither one is running under Linux, which makes both unusable for me. :cry:
Does IDune download Cover Art?
Does IDune download Cover Art?
No, there are many good programs who can do this. I use Ant Movie Catalog (free and you can even download the Delphi source code).
Veliferum
playedalive
08-03-09, 23:30
actually does any one know of a cover art download service which will insert the poster art into a cover template.
so if i have a blu-ray movie it will put the cover art inside the typical blue cover. Just to make it easier to see which movies are a blu-ray
I already explained it in the second post of this thread: You have to render the metadata into an .aai file. There is no possibility to show metadata from a database or textfile or whatever other source!
That much I follow.
What I am not sure about is if I can generate an AAI file for an index page, such as a list of thumbnails, and once the user clicks this thumbnail, generate another AAI file that is basically a picture of the cover, synopsis, rating, actors, ect. ect.?
It's not real easy to see without the unit itself.
In terms of what the device lists the only thing it can show so far are icons for folders and choosing how they are laid out eg 4 columns by 2 rows ect. If by meta data you mean things like movie description, genre ect there is currently nothing to support this.
Ok, if you cannot proceed from this overview, there is likely not much sense of creating support for the device.
The hope was that an image could be created containing all the meta-data for the title.
What I was hoping was to create a thing similar to what we will be doing for the TViX. Take a look here:
http://wiki.mymovies.dk/My%20Movies%20and%20DVICO%20TViX.ashx
On the TViX, the unit displays a cover overview of the "folder.jpg" files, which I would create AAI files for. Then when clicking on a title, it displays the "TViX.jpg", which is the file you can see an example of in the page above, for which I would create an AAI file, similar to that TViX.jpg, meaning a file showing the movie meta-data.
But basically, as I read it, this cannot be done?
playedalive
10-03-09, 01:15
ah i see what you mean now.
The problem is right now the dune does not support any form of background art for the current folder you are in yet. unless you make that background image a folder icon for each movie.
For me personally i just like to see 10 movies at once on the screen 5 x 2 and then if i select it it plays. Im not all for knowing what the movie is about as i would already know. Maybe more for things like tv shows it helps but for movies its kinda pointless for me.
But it would be great if my movies could automaticly create the dune_folder.txt for each movie folder and create the aai con file. Maybe try just that first and then wait and see if dune allow for background art in the future.
also a question Binnerup, in my movies is there anyway for the tool to download a blu-ray cover for a folder containing a BDMV folder as it would make things handy to know what type of movie is what.
Personally I want to close this thread the guy is getting support for his windoze only app... IMHO that is proof of having bad taste...
other thoughts I might consider?
Wow I didn't realize that this type of moderation is what one could expect on this site...I have been looking at the BD prime for some time as an end point to movies on my array. The mymovies server on the back end catalogs pulls cover art etc for all of my movies which the dune can't do...I'm sure there are more folks out there that would be interested in this from my perspective I am looking at end points and any interoperability from an end point perspective that can integrate with the type of application that will support ISO's and JPEG. I am looking for exactly that type of functionality:
Could work flow work like this??
List of Icons (Folder coverart etc. 2 x 5 (converted AAi from Jpg)
Select Icon folder (movie cover art) goto a specific Image or AAI Graphic of the description and maybe back cover of the disc. not as an icon per say at this level as it might be too small but an actual full screen image of the description in AAI image format...
From here either options to play or go back to menu of Icons. Would be great.
Cheers,
requis
also a question Binnerup, in my movies is there anyway for the tool to download a blu-ray cover for a folder containing a BDMV folder as it would make things handy to know what type of movie is what.
Sure...you simply use mymovies to identify your titles and then add to your movies (Name of movie folder where MKV files reside), mymovies pulls the description and available cover art, and drops them in the folder.
works well.
Cheers,
requis
Wow I didn't realize that this type of moderation is what one could expect on this site...
There is a mpc project running here (IDune) and that is basically the same functionality as this project... maybe the commercial look and feel is not there yet... but it is coming there.
This project is free at this point but we are not sure this will stay so. I HATE project like that they use our good will to help and when the app is mature enough they going to ask for money ( been here long enough to see that happen again and again )
Personally the whole model of the app here is wrong (it's based on windows and not linux while most of the people here use a NAS for streaming there data to there media processor. and all NAS'es run Linux -- it's again a sign of small sighness)
case closed.
Reopened by Hi-Jack...
As long as the forums are not used as info source for a paid application,
commercial activityth and directly handles a concern surrounding media
players and NAS, this topic is not wrong to be discussed here, even if
limited to Windows only... :-)
We are not in the habit of closing threads for other reasons than breaking the "rules" or impoliteness. In this case we support Sodium to have closed the thread for it's commercial load (the reason of Windows Only is not a valid argument, sorry). Never the less, this remains a case were the thread should not have been locked (donateware, not commercial). In case you have issues with threads being closed and forth, contact the board admin (me) to have a look at it.
Someone did, i looked, and thread is open again as there's nothing wrong...
Now Mule... your personal reaction towards me shows once more you are unable to interpret situations as I had nothing to do with this thread... It's time you grow over your hate towards MPC and myself and either participate in discussions normally or be gone like you said already few times... This is your last warning...
Binnerup:
The application is "donateware" which can be confused with paid application. This is something you should understand as the applications does not work fully unless people pay... That can have caused confusion on the rule "no commercial stuff on the forums unless approved by me (i'm not God but we don't want everyone starting commercial activities)".
I would also suggest to be clearer on the donation. Each donation of a dollar grants the user 25 points, how many do you need to unlock? How long do the points last? What are the points used for? Is the "donation" expiring over time using the points system?
This falls under user information we value to avoid surprises over time.
Thx for considering it. Once cleared up, you can keep using MPC forums concerning the tool as long as it remains "donateware" and conditions for end users are clear.
Enjoy
I would also suggest to be clearer on the donation. Each donation of a dollar grants the user 25 points, how many do you need to unlock? How long do the points last? What are the points used for? Is the "donation" expiring over time using the points system?
Not a problem, I can be clear on this.
The program lets you either contribute data to gain points, or donate $'s, which basically means that if you participate in improving data, all features are free. Policy though is that all features which are considered basic usage always is free and requires no points.
This means that you do not need points to use the program, and the movie monitoring functions, as well as Collection Management funcions, which means meta-data creation for the various units is part of what's considered basic usage, and therefore free. It is not a secret that all of this is free because we hope that users over time takes part in improving the data in their own collection, and at the same time contribute these things back to all users on the service, improving the service for everyone.
Some functions, such as the Movie and Music disc copier on Windows Home Server requires points - in this case 1250 points. Again, this is points you can get by contributing data, or donating, which again means that if you would like to contribute your way to the points, everything is free, where others might choose to pay for the points, or you can choose a combination.
We have a page which details which features needs points - all features that are not specifically mentioned here does not require points, and is therefore totally free:
http://wiki.mymovies.dk/Features%20Requiring%20Points.ashx
Points are "lifetime", which means that they do not expire over time.
Thank you for re-opening the thread.
Regards,
Brian
Ok, that's reveals a thing or two...
Thx for the explanation...
Nice to see it open again.
Did some searching on the My Movie site:
http://www.mymovies.dk/userranking.aspx
reveals more about getting points for this donateware.
I would like to have moviedescriptions on my Dune. Choosing in this way a movie with my family is more convenient compared to DVD Profiler or WhereIsIt (no use of mouse and switching back to the Dune). Choosing from only pictures made by iDune is not always the way to go.
I would like to have moviedescriptions on my Dune. Choosing in this way a movie with my family is more convenient compared to DVD Profiler or WhereIsIt (no use of mouse and switching back to the Dune). Choosing from only pictures made by iDune is not always the way to go.
This is what I would like to accomplish, however based on the previous posts, it seem that this may not be possible.
Can anyone confirm or unconfirm weather the Dune is ONLY able to show an icon on an index page (a list of covers), or if it is also able to open up a photo including details on each of the movies?
http://img123.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1020502ck6.jpg
See: http://www.mpcclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17696&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60
Originally posted by The-Don:
I think with one icon as big as your background Cool
The Wizard:
Yes and no.
You have to do all by hand and YOU MUST BE IN ICONS MODE.
1. Use Movie_GUI_Builder_PC for the image I use 1280*720.
Use a empty dir stucture (you don't want all files on your hd.
2. convert the Tivx.jpg to .aai (about 3.5 mb)
3.Rename your tvix.aai to -.aai
4.Put your -.aai into the right dir.
I have included a directory structure so you can see what I have done.
If you use this dir structure and files you can make your movie descriptions.
It's a dirty way to do it but it's okey for now (hope native backgroud's are suported quick)
Mart: This is indeed good news, this means that it is possible without a doubt.
We already create TViX.jpg files, similar to those used in this example.
Now the next thing likely is to see if we can create alpha transparent images, to awoid the ugly black background.
I will create a few example AAI files, and then I hope one of more of you can try to see how it looks on the unit.
Do any of you know which resolution the interface runs in? Is it 1920x1080, as the 1280x720 picture used in this example is quite a bit smaller?
Hya,
I have created a set of examples using 1280x720 images in both solid and transparent versions, and 1600x720 images also both solid and transparent as they may fill the screen better.
The are created similar to the 1408 files from this thread:
http://www.mpcclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17696&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60
The files can be downloaded here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/207894187/HDI_Dune.zip.html
Is there anyone that can test how the Dune handles these, and how they look?
Regards,
Brian
Sorry for the crappy tv images:
http://rapidshare.com/files/207914139/imgs.zip.html
Looks ok, but you are too much off to the right on my setup.
*LOL*
That does look quite odd.
Anyways - it concludes that the transparent image actually works correct - that is pretty important to be able to create something that fits nicely into the interface.
I will try to make another attempt.
lundman: Thank you for the test.
Can I get you to open "Transparent 1600x720", and then the subfolder "-", and edit the "dune_folder.txt".
Can you then change "icon_dx" to 0 and see if that helps?
No difference at all. Thought for a second it was cached, but changing the icon path makes it go away when I click Refresh. Tried values on both and they do nothing (-500 - +500).
That's odd.
Does the values in the upper directory (the one above the "-" directory) make a difference?
I think I have read somewhere that the interface is 1280x720
So if your Image is 1280x720 then set DX = 0 and DY = 0.
Restart your Dune after changing (there is some chaching system).
Veliferum
veriferum: It just does not make much sense, if you look at the screenshots, the 1280x720 image does not nearly fill the screen.
Restarting made no difference, nor any values in either file. Changing the file name in the "-" folder works. but thats about it.
I'm running 090213_1219_beta
HDI_fw_dev
11-03-09, 16:10
The Dune interface is 1920x1080.
HDI fw dev:
Thank you for that information.
Since you likely know a lot about the unit, what would you think the ideal size of a full screen AAI image would be to display meta-data? Is the 1600x720 a good size?
Also, do you have any clue why the example files I created displays as odd as it looks in lundman's screenshots?
Regards,
Brian
Binnerup, shouldn't full screen be the full 1920*1080? Or are you making some borders?
HDI_fw_dev
11-03-09, 19:18
The good size for meta-data picture depends on the exact overall layout of the screen. Probably different people will like different layouts/solutions.
It seems 1600x720 might be too big for some layouts.
1540x560 could be better suited in some cases, e.g. when the info picture is used as a background picture for a folder listing one or two items.
Here are some 1920x1080 screenshots of Dune interface, you may want to look at them to check for the exact geometry of different interface elements:
http://rapidshare.com/files/208029114/dune_screenshots.zip
> Also, do you have any clue why the example files I created displays as odd as it looks in lundman's screenshots?
Will try to check this tomorrow.
Binnerup, shouldn't full screen be the full 1920*1080? Or are you making some borders?
No, because the Dune itself has some interface elements that we need to have place for too.
[quote="HDI_fw_dev"]Here are some 1920x1080 screenshots of Dune interface[quote]
These are indeed very helpfull - especially looking at the "screenshot3", I can see that the best way is to place cover, synopsis and star rating in the left area, and place other details on the right side.
I will create an AAI that matches the UI fully, then I just need to figure out why the position is off.
Regards,
Brian
Thanks to "HDI_fw_dev"'s screenshots, I have tried creating an AAI with meta-data that fits into the Dune UI.
Can anyone try this one:
http://rapidshare.com/files/208265494/Dune.zip.html
The outcome should hopefully be something like this:
[IMG:150:100:f64f0fb699]http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/8421/screenshotmqz.th.jpg[/img:f64f0fb699] (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotmqz.jpg)
I have one question though, regarding the dune_folder.txt - is the icon_dx and icon_dy from the full top left corner in 1920x1080, or is it somewhere inside the UI?
Regards,
Brian
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/417/p1120227.jpg
Lidt bedre ...
This is how it looks like at my place
[IMG:150:99:0cc4b3a582]http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5408/screenshot3u.th.png[/img:0cc4b3a582] (http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot3u.png)
And after this my screen goes black and does not respond anymore
lundman: Dansk?
Something could indicate that the positions are not calculated from the top corner, or that it by default is centered on the screen.
Does anyone know?
This is how it looks like at my place
That was a great screenshot.
Does this make it any better?:
http://rapidshare.com/files/208281312/Dune2.zip.html
It looks the same but it don't chrash my prime anymore.
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/417/p1120227.jpg
Lidt bedre ...
Please keep it in English please.
It looks the same but it don't chrash my prime anymore.
Could it be a cache of the old files, causing it not to update the placing according to the dune_folder.txt file perhaps?
Anyways - I just need to find out where the offset calculations are from, then it might be best not to create a full 1920x1080 picture, but only a 1620 x 754 one, which is the content area of the screen.
Let me try to see if I can get the code to do that.
Lidt bedre ...
"A little better" that was ;-)
I am not sure if Lundman is Danish, but I am - could be this was his way of letting me know ;-)
Nah, Lived in Farum for 3 years though but I am Swedish:)
Your first test was in Danish... :)
Binnerup could you please provide me your png you are using so I can make my own aai file with different resolutions :) to help you out
Sure.
I have created a 1620x754 image instead of the 1920x1080 though, which is just a removal of the empty areas.
Then I have set the X and Y back to 0 and 0, which means that with another screendump, I should be able to determine the correct position.
http://rapidshare.com/files/208291190/Dune3.zip.html
Included in the zip is also the png image that the software creates.
I've a working situation:
I've changed a little in the first config file
This is how it looks for now :
http://rapidshare.com/files/208296912/Dune-TheDon.rar.html
[IMG:150:99:7c97361d3e]http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4576/screenshot4g.th.png[/img:7c97361d3e] (http://img16.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot4g.png)
Hah oh yeah, it can do screenshot, don't I feel the fool right now..
What is the key code for screenshot anyway?
Hah oh yeah, it can do screenshot, don't I feel the fool right now..
What is the key code for screenshot anyway?
Select it first in settings, then press the eject key !!!
Edit: @Binnerup: Dont you read your PM's ??? :D
Veliferum
Edit: @Binnerup: Dont you read your PM's ??? :D
Sorry, I have been used to pop-up notices on such ones.
Will read right away ;-)
I've changed a little in the first config file
Nice - it seems you have put it in the "use_icon_view" mode - I can also see it creates the blue thing.
Is that a requirement for it to display right? Because if that is the case, I must make the content a bit smaller, to fit inside the blue box.
Anyways - we are getting closer it seems.
Edit: @Binnerup: Dont you read your PM's ??? :D
Sorry, I have been used to pop-up notices on such ones.
Will read right away ;-)
You have to edit your profile, there is a setting :D
Pop up window on new Private Message:
I've a working situation
What happens if you place an actual video in the structure?
Could the GUI have a link to youtube trailer or apple trailer?
Could the GUI have a link to youtube trailer or apple trailer?
This is not currently part of the plan - we do not have those in our meta-data, and the meta-data is what we base this on.
We do though work together with Filmtrailer.com to provide trailers in our Media Center program, and perhaps later on, we can match our titles to a trailer and get this into the UI. The only downside is that Filmtrailer.com is a European provider of trailers, and there is no US catalog, although the UK catalog will likely work for most titles.
But, main priority right now is to be able to automatically create the meta-data for the Dune.
@Binnerup:
In reply to your PM:
Helping you will likely kill my own IDune Project... :(
But life isn't always how you want it...
I can only hope that you don't make your project commercial !!!
I took some time to figure this out, but here we go:
1. The Format is: int32 Width, int32 Heigth, int32[] RGBA pixel data.
2. You have to flip the Image to display it correctly on the Dune.
3. To Display a normal jpg image to have to create the Aplha Channel yourself and set it to 0xFE.
Well basicly that all there is.
Regards,
Veliferum
Helping you will likely kill my own IDune Project... :(
I don't think it will, iDune will always be preferred for users who wants to be able to configure things specifically, where the solution in My Movies will be automated, and not highly configurable.
I can only hope that you don't make your project commercial !!!(
We have a special points requirement structure for some features, but the features around the meta-data won't require anything.
Well basicly that all there is.
Thank you - I must say I am very happy that you are this helpfull, although the feature could be seen as competitive.
Regards,
Brian
Hi,
I have created a file, where the -.aai image is not created from AAImageGen, but from own code, based on the inputs from veliferum (Thank you!).
Can anyone check if it displays on the Dune?
http://rapidshare.com/files/208671894/Dune4.zip.html
If it does, I think this is the last step before trying to create some specific structures.
Regards,
Brian
Hi,
I have created a file, where the -.aai image is not created from AAImageGen, but from own code, based on the inputs from veliferum (Thank you!).
Can anyone check if it displays on the Dune?
http://rapidshare.com/files/208671894/Dune4.zip.html
If it does, I think this is the last step before trying to create some specific structures.
Regards,
Brian
Download IDune and view it with IDune, if IDune displays it correctly the Dune also will :)
And read your PM :)
(Looks OK when displayed with IDune !!!!
Veliferum
Looks OK when displayed with IDune !!!!
Great.
The Wizard
13-03-09, 16:15
@Binnerup
We have a special points requirement structure for some features, but the features around the meta-data won't require anything.
So.. Have I already earn me some special points for finding out the menu structure and where can I apply/collect ? :-)
http://www.mpcclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=17696&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60
I will add a virtual $100 donation for the users who have helped out in this topic once we are done.
That gains the 2500 points that is the maximum required points for any feature.
I have a version of the program now that creates a structure, along with the covers and the meta-data files, however I am not sure if it is correct.
I am going to need for someone to check that in a few hours when I have fixed a few minor issues.
The Wizard
13-03-09, 16:39
I will add a virtual $100 donation for the users who have helped out in this topic once we are done.
That gains the 2500 points that is the maximum required points for any feature.
I have a version of the program now that creates a structure, along with the covers and the meta-data files, however I am not sure if it is correct.
I am going to need for someone to check that in a few hours when I have fixed a few minor issues.
Just PM me !! I'll give it a go !!
There is a demo structure here, it would be great if anyone can see what problems there is with it.
If someone is able to suggest changes to the dune_folder.txt for better implementation, that would be great.
This structure is automatically created by the program, but it might need different tweaks and changes before it's there.
http://rapidshare.com/files/208780233/Dune.zip.html
The file contains various file types, such as VIDEO_TS structures, ISO files and AVI files. All of these are virtual, there is no content in any of them, which may cause the Dune to not display them at all.
Yeah the wizard and velerium do really earn those points!
I can't see it completely on my prime. In icon mode I see only the movieposter and in the advanced listing mode also on the right site. No description is displayed on the left.
I didn't use iDune on that share, just putted the .aai and the dune_folder.txt in it. Also a movie to be sure.
I'm I doing something wrong
I can't see it completely on my prime. In icon mode I see only the movieposter and in the advanced listing mode also on the right site. No description is displayed on the left.
Please try the structure I have just uploaded.
Still nothing.
I tried by nfs, smb and usb over different hdd's. No icon is showing. The only thing I can do is open 1 dvd Cars to see all it's file. There are no folders to see so I can't open any other folder.
I find several Errors:
First in the Dune root folder:
1. You point to a .Icon.aai but it isn't found in the root. (By the way the name can be any name Cover.aai etc...)
2. Still in the Dune root: The Rows must be filled with at least 1 !!!
If you don't have a icon in the root the remove:
icon_path = .Icon.aai
icon_valign = center
Will check the sub-folders now, report later.
Veliferum
The Wizard
13-03-09, 17:48
I Have the -.pgn in my screen now after converting to -.aai
Pic cover is in the middle and text all over the place.
I have checkt the -.aai in Idune that looks oke.
Some dir structures are not correct (working on it)
I find several Errors:
Thank you.
So, to re-cap, the content of the root dune_folder.txt should be:
use_icon_view = yes
num_cols = 3
num_rows = 3
icon_top = 0
icon_bottom = 0
caption_font_size = small
text_bottom = 0
Correct?
playedalive
13-03-09, 20:14
shouldn't it be
num_cols = 5
num_rows = 2
as i thought that is what was agreed to work the best to see the poster art clearly?
Amazed at how quickly this is coming along got distracted by uni work, if you need any more help binnerup testing ill be happy to do so.
Yes much better :)
I have Rows=3 and Cols=6 for Icons 200*200.
and Rows=2 and Cols=6 for Icons 200*300.
And I have Icon_Top = 15
Veliferum
shouldn't it be
It might.
I have decided that I will put all of the different things into the template XML file, and put out a version of the software with that.
Then one could play with it to tweak:
- The dune_folder.txt content in the root folder, in the video folder, and in the data folder.
- Change the name of the AAI files individually for each folder.
- Change the MaxWidth and MaxHeight of the index image (folder.jpg alternative)
- The name of the meta-data folder (currently -)
That should allow you to play with the various settings of the txt files, and with which names files are stored.
Give me a few hours for this.
Regards,
Brian
Yes much better :)
I have Rows=3 and Cols=6 for Icons 200*200.
and Rows=2 and Cols=6 for Icons 200*300.
And I have Icon_Top = 15
Veliferum
Ok, putting this in.
Setting the rows to 2, and maxsize to 200x300.
playedalive
13-03-09, 20:30
this is what i get with 3 x 3
[IMG:640:480:95ea2dc89a]http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/5293/img0165z.jpg[/img:95ea2dc89a] (http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0165z.jpg)
and 3 x 2
[IMG:640:480:95ea2dc89a]http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/8084/img0166d.jpg[/img:95ea2dc89a] (http://img408.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0166d.jpg)
actually thinking about it i like 3x3 better.
although was it ment to show a background image for the movies as for all of them the dubne just wanted to try and play the files and when i browsed the folders manualy nothing came up apart from the file contents.
Hya,
Ok, last try before actually creating the software package.
Is this better?:
http://rapidshare.com/files/208883014/Dune_2.zip.html
Regards,
Brian
playedalive
13-03-09, 22:25
i will try that now, ill submit some screenshots
playedalive
13-03-09, 22:33
[IMG:1600:1200:695f37a41c]http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4482/img0169n.jpg[/img:695f37a41c] (http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0169n.jpg)
[IMG:1600:1200:695f37a41c]http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4641/img0168f.jpg[/img:695f37a41c] (http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0168f.jpg)
[IMG:1600:1200:695f37a41c]http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6969/img0167c.jpg[/img:695f37a41c] (http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0167c.jpg)
yeh something is still not right, if you want me to make fine adjustments to the dune_folder i can, rather than you uploading another zip
I actually would rather upload another Zip, to ensure I get it fixed here.
This looks like the issue we also had yesterday, and "TheDon" changed it to icon view for the main screen.
Can you try this one?
http://rapidshare.com/files/208896969/Dune_3.zip.html
What I have trouble finding out is how you would actually start the movie?
Ok, if we switch the meta-data viewing screen to icon mode, then it becomes one big button, correct?
Is this where we need to specify media_url then, to let it know what to play?
And, was there something with media_url not being able to point to VIDEO_TS, BDMV and ISO files?
playedalive
13-03-09, 22:57
ill try them now, if you want it to play then the media_url feature must be used, for example:
example 1
media_url = bill.bailey.tinselworm.dvdrip.xvid-haggis.avi
example 2
media_url = 1920-dooms.mkv
ect
these are from dune_folder.txt file where the media file is in the same folder. i belive it currently wont work for vido_ts or BDMV folder, but it should be ok as since when you select a folder containg one of those folders it will ask do you want to play this dvd or blu-ray. Its only for individual files that a reference to the file has to be made if you want it to play the movie file when the folder is selected.
The way it can work for now is if the user selects the folder they can either chose to play it and not see the movie info, or choose manual instead of play whereby it will take them inside the folder whereby they will see the meta info.
Ok.
Can you try the latest file to see if it displays correct?
If it does, can you try to put some actual movie content in the various formats (AVI, ISO, VIDEO_TS, BDMV), if you have them, and see if you can get them to play without having to change the meta-data display?
Regards,
Brian
playedalive
13-03-09, 23:09
[IMG:640:480:4a01e72336]http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6033/img0171a.jpg[/img:4a01e72336] (http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0171a.jpg)
[IMG:1600:1200:4a01e72336]http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3829/img0172o.jpg[/img:4a01e72336] (http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0172o.jpg)
[IMG:1600:1200:4a01e72336]http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/7453/img0173r.jpg[/img:4a01e72336] (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img0173r.jpg)
the text on the left hand side and the poster are leaving the boundary by like 20 pixels each side.
Ok, yes, this was expected when changing to icon mode.
It is not a problem though, I will simply change the template to position the items a bit different.
What is interesting now is if we can get movies to play in this way, both for AVI's, VIDEO_TS, BDMV and ISO's - AVI's, because that would be the same for any single file.
playedalive
13-03-09, 23:24
OK to get files eg .avi .mkv playing i went into the dune_folder.txt of the "-" folder and did the following:
media_url = ../iceage.avi
this being the movie ice age which was stored in the ice age folder. This way i see the synopsis image, i press enter on it and it will play.
so the same can be done for mkv, avi ect.
for iso files, this will currently not work as the dune cant point to them when using the dune_folder file although this will be fixed in the next firmware release
for video_ts and bdmv folders, I can select in the set-up menu to disable auto play of folders containing bdmv files. So you can select the post art and automatically see the meta data without being prompted if you want to play the folder.
BUT right now the dune_folder.txt cant point to either video_ts or BDMV but again this will be fixed in the next firmware.
So for now you can just have the dune_folder.txt in each "-" folder point to the media file or iso or video_ts or bdmv folder, and we can for now just manually select the folder or iso for now. That way when the firmware is updated it should work perfectly.
Ok, sounds good.
Is there any indication on the time frame on that firmware update?
playedalive
13-03-09, 23:28
this is where i found it out:
http://www.mpcclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18735&start=105
and the fimware devs wont say when the next release will be, should be VERY soon though
Ok.
If it's soon, then this is what we need to go for.
I will update the code to create an image that fits inside the box, and then I will put a mediainfo setting into the file.
Is this this it then you think?
playedalive
13-03-09, 23:36
yep for now it should be, unless the dev's do anything drastic such as implement their own way of displaying background art which im guessing will just be an addition to the dune_folder.txt with a background option.
As i said ISO, BDMV and video_ts folders could be pointed to by the media_url right now even though it wont play the file when pressing enter on the movie info icon, but all that would need to be done for now is press down to see the other files and just select them manualy. then once the firmware is updated, it should work perfectly.
Thanks for your hard work, realy, realy appreciate it!
Ok.
That sounds good.
There was a description previously on how to do a screendump in the unit - can you create a screendump on the movie info screen? That would allow me to change the content to fit the screen.
Regards,
Brian
playedalive
13-03-09, 23:55
ok done:
http://rapidshare.com/files/208920507/Archive.zip.html
put them on rapidshare to make sure there was no compression done to the images.
Thank you.
And, playedalive - you are familiar with My Movies already, right?
playedalive
14-03-09, 00:13
yep i have been using it for ages with vista media centre until recently I sold it as i could never get blu-rays to work properly. I now use the windows home server version with my BD Prime. Im also a registered user of it under the same name as i did some data upload to fix a couple of movies some time ago.
Ok, this also means that you are a good test person to start a test of the actual software, and not just the files.
I will make the changes, then compile a version.
playedalive
14-03-09, 00:26
thanks, i will be more than happy to test the software out.
One question i have is to do with covers for blu-rays. I am trying to have it so that for a blu-ray movie, it shows the blue cover around the edge of the cover to help indicate to me that its a blu-ray.
When i tried to upload a blu-ray cover in the my movies application it said that i can only submit the actual cover art and not including the case. Is there anyway so that it can add the blu-ray plastic cover onto the art work or anything to the cover to indicate it is a blu-ray?
Thanks
You can in your own collection, but you can not contribute it - we will put the overlays on where needed.
Once we get this working, we will look at some nice overlays.
I tried Dune3.zip, very nice.. few pixels off here are there, but completely usable as is.
I'm a little late to this thread it seems since until now I only had .iso images and thus haven't been usable for me until they add .iso support in for media_url. I have however just recently added a bunch of other video formats and so I had a few questions about the product/suggestions.
Questions:
1) Will this work if the filesystems that the video files are located on is mounted off of a linux server to the windows xp box running the app.
2) Will this automatically place all of the needed images/files into the filesystem the media is stored on?
3) Is this going to be a donation only feature and if so how many points are you planning?
Suggestions:
1) Options to build a directory structure supporting genre types where movies could be in multiple genres (eg Spaceballs is both sci-fi and a comedy) and provide a link back (via media_url) to where the movie is really stored.
2) ditto as 1 but with aphabetical listings like iDune
3) Any plan for music cds ?
Thanks and if there's any testing or assistance I can provide I'd be interested in helping where I can.
@Binnerup
What is the difference compared to the version of 12the of march. My suggestion was to use the icon mode. Now I'm reading your disgussion of last night and now the conclusion is the same as thursday.
You have to use icon mode and you picture is to large to fit in to the button.
Or am I missing something ?
Otherwise it is a waste of time of all the users that has tested last night.
What is the difference compared to the version of 12the of march. My suggestion was to use the icon mode. Now I'm reading your disgussion of last night and now the conclusion is the same as thursday.
You have to use icon mode and you picture is to large to fit in to the button.
You are absolutely correct - your files were the ones showing how to do it correct - I simply did not the first time get the auto-generated files from the program to do it correct.
So, conclusion is that we must use icon mode, and therefore I must change the image, which is a minor thing, given that it's all based on an XML template.
I tried Dune3.zip, very nice.. few pixels off here are there, but completely usable as is.
I think we are getting there, no doubt.
1) Will this work if the filesystems that the video files are located on is mounted off of a linux server to the windows xp box running the app.
Yes, as long as the program is able to access it as a shared UNC path (\\server\share), or as a local drive.
2) Will this automatically place all of the needed images/files into the filesystem the media is stored on?
Yes, you can either user an folder import function to start it up, and then go to add and edit titles manually from there, or you can configure a folder monitoring for a path to automatically add data whenever new titles arrive.
3) Is this going to be a donation only feature and if so how many points are you planning?
Everything is donation where, some fetures requires points though, but all of our features that is around Collection Management does not require points. We do hope that the users instead help improve the data on the titles in their collection for those that is not 100% complete.
Suggestions:
1) Options to build a directory structure supporting genre types where movies could be in multiple genres (eg Spaceballs is both sci-fi and a comedy) and provide a link back (via media_url) to where the movie is really stored.
Certainly, this will be looked at, as soon as we have a basic implementation. The important part right now was to get a Pre Release out that supports creating meta-data for as many units as possible.
2) ditto as 1 but with aphabetical listings like iDune
I see a lot of different catalog entries we can make:
- All Titles
- By genre
- By letter
- By decade
- By year
- By parental level
- By movie format
Ect. ect.
3) Any plan for music cds ?
No, and then some yes. Our Collection Management software is movie only, and there is no plans to change this.
On our Windows Home Server though, we have automatic disc copiers for both DVD's, Blu-ray's and Audio CD's, adding the meta-data in the same process, it is very likely we will use this method to present these nicely on the unit, but initially only for the discs that have been copied with the disc copier. The automatic disc copier on WHS is a feature that require points though. Here's a little teaser video of an upcoming feature:
http://www.mymovies.dk/media/VideoTutorials/AAVWHS7-V3/AAVWHS7-V3.html
The Windows Home Server disc copiers require 1250 points, or 2500 points if you want to copy with multiple drives at the same time, or with a media changer, while the movie monitoring is free. The users who have helped out in this topic will as mentioned be given a virtual donation to the 2500 points, which unlocks all features both in the oridinary client and on the home server software.
Thanks and if there's any testing or assistance I can provide I'd be interested in helping where I can.
Thank you.
@Binnerup
I'm a software developer myself. Are you creating youre software in .NET ?
C# or are you a diehard C++ programmer ? Just for the information.
I'm a C# programmer (.net of course).
If it is .net are you building this software in fw 3.5 or 2 ?
@The-Don
I develop in .NET Framework - the version depends on the task, but this software is in FW 2.0, some parts that has to run inside Media Center 2005 is FW 1.1.
I am not really die-hard in anything ;-) I can do very little in C, but typically get someone to help me when something needs to be done there.
Hi all,
I think I am ready to see if not only the structures work, but the actual software feature does too.
I will be creating a documentation page as soon as possible, but here goes for those who can do without.
The links to the software will be edited in, in the bottom of the post (they are currently uploading).
Follow this:
1. Install My Movies Server-Client in X86 or X64 depending on your OS.
2. Run the "Collection Management" program.
3. Go to "Configure", "General Options" in the menu, and select "Monitored Folders".
4. Scroll down, and check the "Store meta-data for HDI Dune (AAI files)" checkbox.
5. Generally, not much to configure right now, except the language, which means the fixed strings such as "Runtime:", ect. in the generated files. The "Dune Content Paths" is not in use, they are prepared for later use only.
6. Close the dialogs.
7. Start by adding one or more titles manually, to check everything works, then you can look at folder monitoring and folder import options after that. To add a title, click "Add Titles" and find a title to add - then click "Add Online" (stored on harddrive), and browse to the folder the title is in. Press "Add to 'Owned for Keeps'".
Now, you should have meta-data for the first title.
You can choose to play with folder monitoring and folder import if you would like.
Notice the following:
1. My Movies requires a one movie per folder model.
2. Folder Import currently cannot uniquely identify DVD and Blu-ray ISO files, which folder monitoring can, which means you will get folder name identification for these. This will be added.
3. This is a very very pre-release, so if anything is completely off, please describe it here, and have patience.
We have a few video tutorials you can choose to see:
http://www.mymovies.dk/documentation/nick's-video-tutorials.aspx
And, our written documentation can be found here:
http://www.mymovies.dk/documentation/wiki.aspx
Let me know of the results you get.
And, the links to the packages:
Server/Client (Also for any single-zone installation):
http://www.mymovies.dk/media/My%20Movies-2.53PR2-DuneSpecial3-Server-Client-x86.zip
http://www.mymovies.dk/media/My%20Movies-2.53PR2-DuneSpecial3-Server-Client-x64.zip
Client: (Only for connection with existing server!)
http://www.mymovies.dk/media/My%20Movies-2.53PR2-DuneSpecial3-Client-x86.zip
http://www.mymovies.dk/media/My%20Movies-2.53PR2-DuneSpecial3-Client-x64.zip
Regards,
Brian
I forgot one thing.
Those of you who would like to play with the template and dune_folder.txt content can do so in this folder:
C:\Program Files\MCE\My Movies\Modules\MetaData\Dune
Maradona10
14-03-09, 11:31
Mine doesn't create the .Icon.aai file.
The Wizard
14-03-09, 11:59
Mine doesn't create the .Icon.aai file.
Confirm, no .Icon.aai folder conversion in dir structure.
The -.aai is oke, but txt and picture is still off screen a bit.
Mine doesn't create the .Icon.aai file.
Have you been into the configuration and enabled the dune meta-data storage?
Confirm, no .Icon.aai folder conversion in dir structure.
The -.aai is oke, but txt and picture is still off screen a bit.
I expect you refer to the software, and not the structure files?
What do you mean no ".Icon.aai" folder conversion? It is not expected to convert existing images if that is what you mean.
Can you do a screendump?
playedalive
14-03-09, 12:41
ji
i can confirm the same, btw i have wiped my existing collection and started from scratch to remove anything odd.
It does everything apart from convert the folder.jpg cover art which it downloaded into the .icon.aai file.
here is a screen dump over everything it generated:
[IMG:150:74:be0209433d]http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/6929/300rce.th.jpg[/img:be0209433d] (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=300rce.jpg)
playedalive: I am still not following - does it not create an .Icon.aai file at all in the video folder, or do you expect it to convert existing files in there?
Did it create a mymovies.xml file and a folder.jpg in the folder? (It's hidden).
playedalive
14-03-09, 12:46
ah just updated my last post with a screendump
I can see what you mean, the folder .Icon.aai is missing.
Looking into this right now.
Temporary, try going to "Configure", "General Options", "Monitored Folders", press "Configure" next to the Dune meta-data checkbox.
Then add your folder to the "Dune Content Paths:" and mark the folder and press "Update".
This will update the structure, and create the .Icon.aai - I will check why a normal save does not.
playedalive
14-03-09, 12:51
by folder do you mean my root video folder for all my movies or for the individual movie folder?
edit: i changed it to the root of my fillum folder and it now created the icon.aai file.
il check my dune now and show what it does
Yes, the root folder.
I have found the issue though, and I am currently checking and compiling again.
Currently uploading to new locations:
Server/Client (Also for any single-zone installation):
http://www.mymovies.dk/media/My%20Movies-2.53PR2-DuneSpecial3-Server-Client-x86.zip
http://www.mymovies.dk/media/My%20Movies-2.53PR2-DuneSpecial3-Server-Client-x64.zip
Client: (Only for connection with existing server!)
http://www.mymovies.dk/media/My%20Movies-2.53PR2-DuneSpecial3-Client-x86.zip
http://www.mymovies.dk/media/My%20Movies-2.53PR2-DuneSpecial3-Client-x64.zip
I have updated the locations in the original post.
Notice that it will say "not found" or "server error" until the files are finished uploading.
playedalive
14-03-09, 13:09
[IMG:150:99:e02c3f5635]http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/791/screenshot5e.th.png[/img:e02c3f5635] (http://img17.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot5e.png)
[IMG:150:99:e02c3f5635]http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8748/screenshot6e.th.png[/img:e02c3f5635] (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot6e.png)
[IMG:150:99:e02c3f5635]http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/7310/screenshot7.th.png[/img:e02c3f5635] (http://img72.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot7.png)
I only tried manually 2 movies, it seems for the folder icon for the movie they are to short. I thought it was going to be a 5 x 2 grid as that would allow the folder icons to be that little bit bigger?
I only tried manually 2 movies, it seems for the folder icon for the movie they are to short. I thought it was going to be a 5 x 2 grid as that would allow the folder icons to be that little bit bigger?
The ones you have there are HD titles, where the covers are not as high - we will need to put some kind of overlay on these to get them to appear right.
It is currently be default set on a 6x2, but if you:
- Copy the Template1080P.xml in the template folder.
- Edit it, and put "Custom 1" or other in the "Name".
- Then in configuration configure to use this.
- Edit the "num_cols" value in RootFolder/FileContent
- Edit the "MaxWidth" and "MaxHeight" VideoFolder/ImageName
Then, we can likely decide on the best possible default.
Perhaps we should see if we could valign the icon middle?
Regards,
Brian
playedalive
14-03-09, 13:22
ok here is another one with a more movies added. Ignor the one without an icon, haven't added it to the library yet. As you can see the poster art isnt all the same size, is this just the result oft he cover the collection manager getting covers which are incorrectly sized?
[IMG:150:99:87f3fd9af7]http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/5533/screenshot8q.th.png[/img:87f3fd9af7] (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot8q.png)
is this just the result oft he cover the collection manager getting covers which are incorrectly sized?
This is because you have a mix of SD and HD titles, and the HD titles are not as high as the SD ones.
The default max size is 300 x 200 pixels, and the cover will be scaled but contain proportions within that. Notice how they are all 200 pixels wide.
Creating an overlay with blue and red bars or cases will make the difference smaller, and perhaps we should vertical align to middle?
Do any of you know if we can store the name shown below the icon in the dune_folder.txt, to have it match the meta-data instead of the folder name?
As you can see in "playedalive"'s example, because he has years in his folder names, the displayed text is useless.
Do any of you know if we can store the name shown below the icon in the dune_folder.txt, to have it match the meta-data instead of the folder name?
As you can see in "playedalive"'s example, because he has years in his folder names, the displayed text is useless.
Not possible as far as I know, It will always take the Folder name. We could request HDI to add this feature. Some notes about the media url:
1. Paths must be relative, absolute paths are not possible.
2. When the dune_folder.txt is in the same folder as the media file and the media is BDMV or VIDEO_TS you can leave the media_url empty and the media will play when the icon is selected.
3. From other locations it will be possible in the new firmware just enter the directory path to the folder that contains the BDMV or VIDEO_TS and the dune will figure it out what to play.
4. pointing to a iso file will also be supported in the new firmware.
5. I asked HDI to add a extra option info_url to the dune_folder. This option should be executed when the info button on the remote is pressed. This way you can press enter on the little icon to play the media file or press Info to see the second big icon with the media info. When you press enter on the second icon (the big info one) the media file will starts playing also. I hope that they will implement it in the new firmware.
Veliferum
That sounds good - I agree with all of these.
Where do we request that we are able to add the displayed text into the dune_folder.txt?
Perhaps the problem is that it would have to read into the folder when browsing, and read the folder name there.
playedalive
14-03-09, 14:00
ok, im having a problem with when updating the collection to generate the folder icons.
it just seem's to completely freeze, what i am doing now i getting the library cleaned up so everything has its meta data.
If it freezes, there could be a crash occurring - can you check the log?
Log is in Collection Management, Help, Debug.
That sounds good - I agree with all of these.
Where do we request that we are able to add the displayed text into the dune_folder.txt?
Perhaps the problem is that it would have to read into the folder when browsing, and read the folder name there.
Request you can do in the "Direct communication with firmware developers" thread.
I think the Dune could read the display name from the dune_folder, it alreaady has to read the icons to display, so why not get the text to display from the same dune_folder that points to the icon.
Veliferum
playedalive
14-03-09, 15:42
Here are the log files i copied straight after it froze:
http://rapidshare.com/files/209148512/My_Movies.zip.html
playedalive
14-03-09, 16:16
ok, this time i reset my collection again, by removing all entries from the database,
this time i ensured before running the update tool that every folder had a - sub folder. this time it ran perfectly.
i then tried t remove a movies - folder and run the update and it again worked perfecty, so im not sure what is going on as i cant now replicate it.
Im adding a movie at a time, now and running the update to see if anything triggers it
playedalive
14-03-09, 16:29
ok, i can now replicate the bug.
If you add a movie to your collection in which it is just an empty folder, and then run the update it will freeze.
The Wizard
14-03-09, 16:37
When you want to save your movie you have to point to the location dir.
Is it not possible to point to the actual movie file ?
If so, can't you get the media_url to add automaticly to the file you point to?
In that case you can get the media_url info into the dune_folder.txt from the - dir
For the movie 1408 into the - dir the dune_folder.txt says:
icon_path = -.aai
media_url = ../{0}
icon_dx = 0
icon_dy = 0
icon_valign = top
But when you can point to the file direct it can be.
icon_path = -.aai
media_url = ../1408.Directors.Cut.2007.1080p.DTS.X264.wmv
icon_dx = 0
icon_dy = 0
icon_valign = top
Can it be possible ??
playedalive
14-03-09, 16:55
thats what it is doing for me the dune_folder.txt in the - folder hs the url of the movie file in the movie folder. It works perfectly. I haven tried it with more then one movie file in the same folder though.
The Wizard
14-03-09, 17:17
thats what it is doing for me the dune_folder.txt in the - folder hs the url of the movie file in the movie folder. It works perfectly. I haven tried it with more then one movie file in the same folder though.
Then I must be doing somthing wrong because i only get
media_url = ../{0} for my url and i get a error when i want to play the movie. :-(
playedalive
14-03-09, 17:38
well the first thing i did was clear out any previous aai, jps or xml files, so i started fresh, try that?
The Wizard
14-03-09, 17:42
well the first thing i did was clear out any previous aai, jps or xml files, so i started fresh, try that?
I tryed on a complete new harddrive.
mebay I have to make a complete new install of my movies.
playedalive
14-03-09, 17:48
do you have any empty folders as that was causing problems for me?
The Wizard
14-03-09, 17:52
do you have any empty folders as that was causing problems for me?
Nope just one dir including a movie .wmv
Reinstalling now !!!
playedalive
14-03-09, 18:33
ok i can replicate the bug, for me if i initially set it all up by creating a new library in the collector program and then enabling the dune meta data it works fine. If i then add another folder and the collector scanner picks it up it will do 2 things:
1) first it will create the aai and dune_folder but not the cover art icon. the media_url will also be pointing to ../{0} which doesnt work.
2) it will also delete the dune_folder in my main film folder
to fix it i have to run the update option again.
playedalive
14-03-09, 18:40
Ok binnerup i have 3 examples of the xml template and the result:
http://pastebin.com/m538404e3
[IMG:150:100:b51e56c391]http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/6776/screenshot2.th.png[/img:b51e56c391] (http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2.png)
The standard template (the one i prefer)
[IMG:150:100:b51e56c391]http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/3553/screenshot3m.th.png[/img:b51e56c391] (http://img10.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot3m.png)
http://pastebin.com/mf7f63ff
[IMG:150:100:b51e56c391]http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/6700/screenshot4l.th.png[/img:b51e56c391] (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot4l.png)
The Wizard
14-03-09, 19:56
ok i can replicate the bug, for me if i initially set it all up by creating a new library in the collector program and then enabling the dune meta data it works fine. If i then add another folder and the collector scanner picks it up it will do 2 things:
1) first it will create the aai and dune_folder but not the cover art icon. the media_url will also be pointing to ../{0} which doesnt work.
2) it will also delete the dune_folder in my main film folder
to fix it i have to run the update option again.
OKey restored my windows backup and installed a fresh version of my movies, but it's not working just the same media url in dune_folder.txt
update option is also not working.
I't drives me mad ;-)
Please hold on with the {0} - reinstalling won't help you, it is very likely a bug.
Will seek.
Confirmed - the {0} is a bug.
Here are the log files i copied straight after it froze:
http://rapidshare.com/files/209148512/My_Movies.zip.html
Confirmed - this is because it picked up an XML file without a rating in it - so it has nothing to do with how folders are placed.
I will fix.
playedalive
14-03-09, 21:22
yeh i get it, when i let mymovies automatically scan, if i then run the update in the dune section it fixes the media_url
I guess the other bug is that when it automatically scans it doesnt create the icon.aai for the movie folder.
I guess the other bug is that when it automatically scans it doesnt create the icon.aai for the movie folder.
Isen't that what was fixed in the 2'nd build?
OKey restored my windows backup and installed a fresh version of my movies, but it's not working just the same media url in dune_folder.txt
update option is also not working.
I't drives me mad ;-)
Again, please be patient - this is a very early pre-release to see what issues that are there - you are currently being used as QA, since I do not have a device here.
So, it might be a day or two before this is up and running perfectly.
Ok, to re-cap the issues:
1) The .Icon.aai is not when saving titles stored to the video folder (Fixed in build 2, which is posted).
2) Depending on where from the dune_folder.txt inside the meta-data folder is created, it contains {0} instead of the video path. (Fixed in local files, which means in build 3 when posted).
3) In some situations, when the program is storing the Dune data, it gets not responsive, because of an internal exception. (Fixed in local files, which means in build 3 when posted).
4) We need to decide on the defaults for rows and columns, and perhaps, if there are other tweaks to the dune_folder.txt files - perhaps a vertical middle align?
Then there are some improvements we should look at before setteling at a first version:
- Overlays on covers, at least on Blu-ray and HD DVD, to minimize the height difference of HD vs. SD.
- Ask HDI for an option to specify the title name in the dune_folder.txt, to have that displayed, instead of the folder name.
Anything else?
Regards,
Brian
playedalive
14-03-09, 21:58
yep, sorry ddint see the post having a new build, its fixed the icon problem. Only one now is the media_url. Apart from that its fantastic, thank you.
Im wondering once it is considered stable will it ever been integrated into the windows home server monitor?
Ok.
I have already fixed the known issues.
So, right now we are down to the changes we need to make to columns, rows, and perhaps other things.
What's the input on these? "playedalive" - I saw your example screens, but really did not see a conclusion.
Also, can you check if you can v align the image middle by editing the template?
Regards,
Brian
playedalive
14-03-09, 22:17
what do you mean by the image middle?
the 3 examples that i posted are just an example of the appropriate layouts that i thought of. The first having no gaps between the poster art, the second being the template included and the third just having 5 collums to space it out a bit better.
In my opinion the standard layout works fine, maybe include all three and name them maybe Full, 6x2 and 5x2. I cant realy think of any other layout as once you start going to 3 rows the posters start getting a bit too small. I think until the firmware matures what is working now is perfect.
what do you mean by the image middle?
Trying to set icon_valign = center instead of top.
This should make the HD covers be positioned in the center instead of the top.
Can you try that?
The Wizard
14-03-09, 22:30
Is it possible to make a on/off check into the dune config menu for subdirs icons please.
I have icons for:
----- movie hd
Root [
----- movie sd
I have added in the template1080P.xml the lines:
icon_path = .Icon.aai
icon_valign = center
for my subdirs dune_folder.txt
That's working for me.
playedalive
14-03-09, 22:30
yep, just tried that and it worked.
Is it possible to make a on/off check into the dune config menu for subdirs icons please.
I don't get the question?
The Wizard
14-03-09, 22:55
Is it possible to make a on/off check into the dune config menu for subdirs icons please.
I don't get the question?
OKey: When I logon to my readynas-pro I get this screen:
[IMG:150:128:5faff9577f]http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6435/p1020500qp4.th.jpg[/img:5faff9577f] (http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=p1020500qp4.jpg)
But when I use My Movies my icons are gone and I have default folder icons.
So I have added two lines to your Template1080P.xml :
--> icon_path = .Icon.aai
--> icon_valign = center
use_icon_view = yes
num_cols = 6
num_rows = 3
icon_top = 15
icon_bottom = 0
caption_font_size = small
text_bottom = 0]]></FileContent>
</RootFolder>
And now It's okey I have my custom folder icons again.
But not all users have custom icons, so is it possible to make a tickbox for selecting this as a option in the configure HDI Dune menu ?
Hope you get it now ;-) Pheeewww english is hard for me ;-)
OKey: When I logon to my readynas-pro I get this screen
But when I use My Movies my icons are gone and I have default folder icons.
So I have added two lines to your Template1080P.xml
Ok, it's because you have folders in a higher level than where you edit titles with My Movies, and then My Movies overwrites the dune_folder.txt in the root folder?
Question is if it's a problem to put the Icon = .Icon there always - it might not be?
I don't think a checkbox would be the option, perhaps another template - but, generally, you could simply yourself create a specific template - that would not be removed during an upgrade:
- Copy the Template1080P.xml to something else .xml.
- Edit the new file, and write your own template name in <Name></Name>
- Edit what you need for the dune_folder.txt.
- Select the new template in the configuration.
Regards,
Brian
I have fixed the issues that are currently known, and then I have played some with plastic covers, and getting DVD and Blu-ray covers to appear in same sizes by making the plastic covers different.
I would love a screenshot of how this looks.
Server/Client (Also for any single-zone installation):
http://www.mymovies.dk/media/My%20Movies-2.53PR2-DuneSpecial3-Server-Client-x86.zip
http://www.mymovies.dk/media/My%20Movies-2.53PR2-DuneSpecial3-Server-Client-x64.zip
Client: (Only for connection with existing server!)
http://www.mymovies.dk/media/My%20Movies-2.53PR2-DuneSpecial3-Client-x86.zip
http://www.mymovies.dk/media/My%20Movies-2.53PR2-DuneSpecial3-Client-x64.zip
Regards,
Brian
playedalive
15-03-09, 23:23
ok trying it now, does it generate the blu-ray covers for just the aai images or for the folder.jpg as well?
ok trying it now, does it generate the blu-ray covers for just the aai images or for the folder.jpg as well?
I don't get the question?
If you mean the plastic covers, it's for the AAI files only.
playedalive
15-03-09, 23:33
[IMG:150:99:68488bb2fa]http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1936/screenshot5r.th.png[/img:68488bb2fa] (http://img26.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot5r.png)
is it me or are the covers smaller? would it be best to try a 5x2 grid then with the covers bigger to compensate for the size reduction due to the covers?
oh and any bugs i had before are now gone
They are a bit smaller - we have operated with a 200x300 maximum size, however the plastic cover has some fading borders, which makes the actual cover a bit smaller.
Can you in the template try to set the "icon_top = 15", to 0, and try a 6x3?
We could make them bigger, but it requires some file manipulation, so trying another row may be first priority.
I must say though, looking at the screendump, I like how the DVD and Blu-ray covers mix, and appears to match on the screen, despite the different aspect ratios.
What a nice progress is made :D
Just started with it today (not with the very latest version) and it runs good here.
Sometimes I do have to reboot my prime to get the new icons. Is this some cache problem by the Dune?
Other question:
About 95% of my movies are bd's rips on my network. At the moment 30% are complete rips with bdmv folder intact but also 65% is ripped and I saved only the main m2ts in a folder.
Would it be possible to get an option in my movies to get also bd coverart for those m2ts folders, with recognition by extension?
playedalive
16-03-09, 00:19
this was after setting the dune_folder to icon_top to 0 and have it at 6x3. as you can see don't really work to well :)
wouldn't it work best if it was a 5 x2 and then make the final images with the case covers say 20% bigger?
i think it would work best with the final images being h= 330 and w=220 in a 5x2 setting as shown in my examples on page 3 where it was in a 6x2 but the covers were touching each other. in a 5x2 version it shuld be nicely spaced out while maximising the size of the images.
[IMG:150:99:f25139e8c6]http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/9291/screenshot7m.th.png[/img:f25139e8c6] (http://img10.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot7m.png)
Sometimes I do have to reboot my prime to get the new icons. Is this some cache problem by the Dune?
The Dune has some internal cache that requires a power off to be cleared, so yes, it very likely is.
Would it be possible to get an option in my movies to get also bd coverart for those m2ts folders, with recognition by extension?
Yes.
My Movies determines video's by "perceivedType=video" setting in registry, so if you registrer the m2ts files as videos in Windows this way, it will create meta-data for these also.
I will see if I can provide a tool in the program to registrer these, or add a list of video extentions like we have on Windows Home Server.
Regards,
Brian
this was after setting the dune_folder to icon_top to 0 and have it at 6x3. as you can see don't really work to well :)
No, I can see that - if we get HDI to add an option to be able to set the text below the image from the dune_folder.txt, and this could be empty, it could be a good "cover only" layout.
wouldn't it work best if it was a 5 x2 and then make the final images with the case covers say 20% bigger?
Yes, can I get you to make a few tests and find which size is the best? The current is 200x252, so it must be in this ratio, perhaps 250x315?
Anyways - bedtime for me.
I will make a few tweaks again tomorrow.
Regards,
Brian
playedalive
16-03-09, 00:44
about the cache im not sure exactly how it works but it seems the dune does store the layout and icons in cache, the easy way to clear it is to just play a movie and press stop straight away, that clears it.
I spent a while looking around for the cache, it does not appear to be on disk. I found Popup/Refresh to work most of the time, but at the time I was looking at content, not the actual icons.
playedalive
16-03-09, 02:02
you just cant stop messing around with the system can you ludman ;)
It looked very nice until those plastic covers were introduced.
What good are they ? I have not bought this unit to playback SD shit. So since all my movies are Blu Ray why would i need a blu ray box around it ?
This only waste pixels that could have been used to make a image more clear.
It looked very nice until those plastic covers were introduced.
What good are they ?
Easy easy - everything is template based, so those who do not like it have an option to create a template, or we can create an alternative default template.
They serve the purpose of getting Blu-ray and SD DVD covers, which are of different aspect ratios to fit nicely in.
I am aware it is down to taste, which is why everything is template based.
Sorry, if you can choose everyone can be happy
We will make it so that you can.
What happens next, I am pretty sure you will be even more exited about though.
Does anyone know if the icon_path can be relative, such as?:
..\..\..\Shrek\.Icon.aai
I am working on creating a "Dune-MetaData" folder, containing a structure, and copying in the .Icon.aai, and the meta-data aai to a lot of folders quickly creates a huge structure, so being able to relative reference the images would be great.
The structure is going to look like this:
All Titles
Decades
- 1990s
- 2000s
- ect.
Genres
- Comedy
- Drama
- ect.
Parental Rating
- G
- PG
- ect.
Running Time
- 80 to 89 min
- 90 to 99 min
Trailers
- Cinema Coming (30 items)
- Cinema Current (30 items)
- Latest (30 items)
- Popular (30 items)
Years
- 1999
- 2001
- ect.
Trailers section depends on us being able to reference the streams from our provider.
Regards,
Brian
Hello Binnerup,
Or you forget very fast (which is common for a old guy like me), or you can't read :D
Posted a few pages back:
1. Paths must be relative, absolute paths are not possible.
2. When the dune_folder.txt is in the same folder as the media file and the media is BDMV or VIDEO_TS you can leave the media_url empty and the media will play when the icon is selected.
3. From other locations it will be possible in the new firmware just enter the directory path to the folder that contains the BDMV or VIDEO_TS and the dune will figure it out what to play.
4. pointing to a iso file will also be supported in the new firmware.
5. I asked HDI to add a extra option info_url to the dune_folder. This option should be executed when the info button on the remote is pressed. This way you can press enter on the little icon to play the media file or press Info to see the second big icon with the media info. When you press enter on the second icon (the big info one) the media file will starts playing also. I hope that they will implement it in the new firmware.
Veliferum[/i]
Or you forget very fast (which is common for a old guy like me), or you can't read :D
Oh, no, I know that the video files path must be relative, however I did not know if the icon path could be too.
But, given your answer, I expect it can - thanks.
Or you forget very fast (which is common for a old guy like me), or you can't read :D
Oh, no, I know that the video files path must be relative, however I did not know if the icon path could be too.
But, given your answer, I expect it can - thanks.
Well I wrote PATHS.... :D
Veliferum
Yea, sorry for be a dumbass ;-)
The Wizard
16-03-09, 15:30
Nice work only in one day 8O
The covers are great, BIG THANKS for that. ;-)
20% bigger covers are a must because 2 lines is max for displaying because the covers are going to be to small (I think).
media_url for dvd structure works fine.
Only for my files like: Jungle_book.mkv the media_url is still not working.
I can't play my file, when I press enter or play i get building playlist and then nothing happens after that (and yes config of my buttons are correct in setup one for building playlist and one for play single file).
When I edit dune_folder.txt and add the filename Jungle_book.mkv after the ../ all works fine.
When I edit dune_folder.txt and add the filename Jungle_book.mkv after the ../ all works fine.
The name of the mkv file should be inserted into the dune_folder.txt - does it not do that?
If not, have you registered the mkv extention as a video extention with Windows? (perceivedType=video).
It's working here with playing mkv's after running my movies.
.mkv perceivedType=video in Windows 7 was already set in register.
The Wizard
16-03-09, 18:54
OKey guy's indeed problem solved.
I have my clean new windows backup restored, and have no codec's installed on my backup.
After installing a codec-pack all works fine.
I just forgot to install the codecs :sor:
Yeah we still need them, even having our Dune to play those movies :wink:
Actually, this only has to do with determining which file types is movies.
On our WHS software we have a list of extentions that users can add to or remove from, because users are not supposed to install codecs or similar on the WHS.
I think we will move this function to the general software, and look at both this and perceivedType.
Can any of you try the following structure:
http://rapidshare.com/files/210048366/Dune_Structure.zip.html
And, point the Dune to the "Dune-MetaData" folder, and see if it displays anything.
I have not yet put icons on any of the categories, genres or similar.
playedalive
16-03-09, 22:32
sorry cant do anything tonight, got a thesis to dissertation to finish :)
The Wizard
16-03-09, 22:38
Can any of you try the following structure:
http://rapidshare.com/files/210048366/Dune_Structure.zip.html
And, point the Dune to the "Dune-MetaData" folder, and see if it displays anything.
I have not yet put icons on any of the categories, genres or similar.
The size of the new folders are prefect.
Dune-metaData folder is very nice, and looks like it's working great.
Testing some more now.
Will report later again.
First impression all oke.
@The Wizard
That sounds great. I would love a few screenshots of the Dune-MetaData browsing.
I tried to make them, but I get each time: error saving screenshot after set up as suggested and using the eject button.
Does anyone have some suggestions, I can't find it with the search option?
Edit: Nevermind. I forgot to attach a usb hdd :oops:
The size of the new folders are prefect.
Dune-metaData folder is very nice, and looks like it's working great.
Testing some more now.
Will report later again.
First impression all oke.
+1 on both of my primes. Nice work.
The Wizard
16-03-09, 22:57
@The Wizard
That sounds great. I would love a few screenshots of the Dune-MetaData browsing.
Will upload some in a few min.
One note:
Keep in mind not to make to many sub dirs.
Because after +/- 5 dirs the txt sting ontop off the screen gets to long and then your screen is schifting down (the folders jumps a pixel or 10 downwards)
[IMG:150:99:10a40e48db]http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/4876/screenshot1b.th.png[/img:10a40e48db] (http://img26.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1b.png)
[IMG:150:99:10a40e48db]http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/238/screenshot2v.th.png[/img:10a40e48db] (http://img26.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2v.png)
Here you can see what I mean look @ the dir lenght
[IMG:150:99:10a40e48db]http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1071/screenshot3x.th.png[/img:10a40e48db] (http://img26.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot3x.png)
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3734/screenshot1q.png
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8552/screenshot2wdf.png
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6319/screenshot3a.png
The Wizard
16-03-09, 23:22
Two sets of pictures WaWaaaaa ;-)
1 set for from your center and one set from my prime. :D
+ made my post smaller in size special for you 8)
The Wizard
16-03-09, 23:31
made my post smaller in size special for you 8)
Your the best !!!! :bb: have one on me ;-)
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3734/screenshot1q.png
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/8552/screenshot2wdf.png
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6319/screenshot3a.png
See, these actually show that it does not work as expected.
The expected outcome was that you got covers on the titles when opening "All Titles", ect.
Here you can see what I mean look @ the dir lenght
Yes, I can see - however we need to create some structure though.
But I think the longest is:
Dune-MetaData\Genres\Animation\Title
Ect.
I wanted the nice .icons back from iDune for the folders:
1. I run iDune on the share with only Replace icons, Delete Scripts, Update scripts checked.
2. Then I updated my movies -> imported the share -> configuration -> general options -> store meta data for the dune -> config -> update.
I succeeded but is this best practice?
Can anyone test file:
http://rapidshare.com/files/210238240/Dune_4.zip.html
I succeeded but is this best practice?
You won't be able to mix the two, once My Movies creates it's structure, all changes to this structure should be done within My Movies templates.
Mixing them will give some unwanted results.
I wanted the nice .icons back from iDune for the folders:
Regarding the icons - where is it you are trying to re-insert icons?
[IMG:150:99:07f41f2d67]http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/3536/screenshot1yvx.th.png[/img:07f41f2d67] (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1yvx.png)
[IMG:150:99:07f41f2d67]http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/5964/screenshot2lqp.th.png[/img:07f41f2d67] (http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2lqp.png)
This is what I get out of it. So no index.
There should be a .Index folder in the root?
Can you try to rename that, see if it then appears?
The Wizard
17-03-09, 14:00
There should be a .Index folder in the root?
Can you try to rename that, see if it then appears?
You mean like this ?
I removed the "dot" on the .index (the . hides files on linux os systems)
[IMG:150:99:1c884ae8cc]http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/6780/screenshot1gsu.th.png[/img:1c884ae8cc] (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot1gsu.png)
Can we place the index dir in the root dir ?
[IMG:150:99:1c884ae8cc]http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/3696/screenshot2a.th.png[/img:1c884ae8cc] (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot2a.png)
Nice Icons ;-)
[IMG:150:99:1c884ae8cc]http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/7968/screenshot3t.th.png[/img:1c884ae8cc] (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot3t.png)
[IMG:150:99:1c884ae8cc]http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/9079/screenshot4zav.th.png[/img:1c884ae8cc] (http://img13.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot5b.png)
@The Wizard
Then the .Index was not a good idea.
I would love to see some screenshots from within the "Index" folder.
Any way to catch you on Messenger or Skype? - I would like to have the trailer feeds testet, but would like not to public post that before it works.
The Wizard
17-03-09, 14:12
@The Wizard
Then the .Index was not a good idea.
I would love to see some screenshots from within the "Index" folder.
Any way to catch you on Messenger or Skype? - I would like to have the trailer feeds testet, but would like not to public post that before it works.
I uploaded more pics as we speak see previous post.
PM Sent !!!
Nice Icons ;-)
Yes, they are manipulated ones from the interface thread - I have written the author to ensure we have permission to use them. I have not yet gotten a reply, so we may have to remove them again.
But, the screendumps also shows that there still is an issue with relative linking the movie covers.
PM Sent !!!
Have not received a PM?
The Wizard
17-03-09, 14:20
PM Sent !!!
Have not received a PM?
Yes you have ;-)
Yes you have ;-)
I have not? It says "No new messages".
The Wizard
17-03-09, 14:37
Weird, okey send you a e-mail the schort version.
Hi all,
I think we now have a working solution - last part missing is that the internet trailer streams won't play - I hope to get HDI_fw_dev to comment on that, he may know why.
Some details on the result:
http://www.mymovies.dk/documentation/wiki.aspx?Page=My%20Movies%20and%20HDI%20Dune
I have asked hi-jack if I may create a new thread with sort of a feature presentation, along with the latest release of the software, which is:
X86:
http://www.mymovies.dk/media/My%20Movies-2.53PR2-DuneSpecial6-Server-Client-x86.zip
X64
http://www.mymovies.dk/media/My%20Movies-2.53PR2-DuneSpecial6-Server-Client-x64.zip
Anyways, even though the feature for the Dune did not require any points in My Movies, I promised that everyone who have been helping here would be offered a virtual $100 donation, which is the same as the maximum 2500 points that any feature in any of the softwares require, both My Movies' general software, and the home server software.
I have went through the thread, and this is the list of all the users who have helped out:
mule
lundman
playedalive
veliferum
requis
Hi-Jack
Mart1001
HDI_fw_dev
The-Don
The Wizard
Maradona10
If those of you who would like to take me up on this offer, create an account for My Movies by using the Collection Management program in the software, send me your username in a PM, then I will add the virtual donation (points) to your accounts.
Thank you for all your help!
Regards,
Brian Binnerup
This looks great Binnerup, I'm excited to test it out as soon as the USA gets some players our way (hopefully end of March?)...
Congrats Binnerup :D
Nice work within a week and bringing us this nice feauture!
Also thanks for my bonuspoints.
I have set up my network now with my movies.
2x x86 2 XP's, 1x x86 1x Vista and on 1 x64 Windows7 are running smooth.
Everywhere I have my collection, due to monitering and updating, up to date on the pc's and my primes.
About 10% of my scanned titles over the network do mismatch but that's with all the software I tried before when set to Dutch. (Set on English, output is even better). Changing the wrong titles in my movies is a piece of cake.
Will do some more testing and report back.
Thanks, appreciated. I am not entirely sure what the three programs you have written does. Are they for generating meta data only, or are they to stream contents or something, I mean, why do you need a server/client. I could run it in parallels to check it out after all.
The Wizard
20-03-09, 13:05
Thanks Binnerup !!!! ;-)
Works like a charm now, Numbero ono application !
And Thanks for the donationpoints.
Blu-Ray dir structure also works from -index- and movieshd dir !!
Thanks, appreciated. I am not entirely sure what the three programs you have written does. Are they for generating meta data only, or are they to stream contents or something, I mean, why do you need a server/client. I could run it in parallels to check it out after all.
There are actually only two - the "Client and Server/Client", and the "Windows Home Server" software.
Interesting right now is only the "Client and Server/Client", as the feature is not yet available in the WHS software.
For usage with the dune, you will only be needing the Server/Client version, which is the one to use also on standalone installations. The "Server" part simply identifies that it includes the database server, which is needed.
Great work Binnerup,
I tested the different builds you posted and the newest one gives the jewel case on movies.
How do I make all pictures with jewel cases?
billmartian
20-03-09, 23:33
Great App i must say and really appriciated your work ont his one...
However have one questian, dont really know how to create those genres groups. has this to be created within the app or does it just be created my hand...
BM
The Wizard
21-03-09, 10:29
New Firmware release 090313_1955_beta !!
Also include :
- Added correct support for big custom icons in the right panel ("extended
list view" used for the parent folder, with big custom folder icons
assigned to the child folders via dune_folder.txt). Previously, the usage
of big icons could corrupt the screen content.
- Added dune_folder.txt support for custom background images.
- Supported image format: .AAI.
- Background image can be of any size.
- Background image can have transparency and alphachannel.
- Background image position and scale factor can be adjusted.
- Added dune_folder.txt support for reloading custom icons/images.
- Press ROTATE button or perform "Refresh" menu action to reload
icons/images loaded via dune_folder.txt.
- Added support for dune_folder.txt/media_url referencing DVD ISO files,
Bluray ISO files, DVD folders, Bluray folders.
- Added dune_folder.txt support for reloading custom icons/images.
- Press ROTATE button or perform "Refresh" menu action to reload
icons/images loaded via dune_folder.txt.
The last item is handy, you don't have to reset the dune if you change somthing in your dune_folder.txt but just refresh.
Nice options.
Only thing to know what syntax to use for the backgrounds in dune_folder.txt
Only thing to know what syntax to use for the backgrounds in dune_folder.txt
Just follow this link
http://hdi.co.il/firmware/misc/dune_folder_howto.txt
The Wizard
21-03-09, 11:47
Only thing to know what syntax to use for the backgrounds in dune_folder.txt
Just follow this link
http://hdi.co.il/firmware/misc/dune_folder_howto.txt
Thanks The Don
Thanx for this GREAT tool!!
One question...
If i start a Blu Ray directly from the movie-icon and the BDMV is in the "-" subfolder, everthing is fine - it plays with menu and all this stuff......
If i start from index and the BDMV is in the "-" subfolder, the dune starts to create a playlist - and donīt stop it :-(
When the BDMV is in the movie-folder it starts from index, but without the menu structure
What do i make wrong???
The Wizard
21-03-09, 12:53
Just a first try with a background;-)
[IMG:150:99:7ddf2e3000]http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2690/screenshot9u.th.png[/img:7ddf2e3000] (http://img14.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot9u.png)
Thanx for this GREAT tool!!
One question...
If i start a Blu Ray directly from the movie-icon and the BDMV is in the "-" subfolder, everthing is fine - it plays with menu and all this stuff......
If i start from index and the BDMV is in the "-" subfolder, the dune starts to create a playlist - and donīt stop it :-(
When the BDMV is in the movie-folder it starts from index, but without the menu structure
What do i make wrong???
Nothing :D
BDMV and VIDEO_TS where not supported until NOW...
Try the new BETA firmware and it will work !
Veliferum
Thanx for this GREAT tool!!
One question...
If i start a Blu Ray directly from the movie-icon and the BDMV is in the "-" subfolder, everthing is fine - it plays with menu and all this stuff......
If i start from index and the BDMV is in the "-" subfolder, the dune starts to create a playlist - and donīt stop it :-(
When the BDMV is in the movie-folder it starts from index, but without the menu structure
What do i make wrong???
Nothing :D
BDMV and VIDEO_TS where not supported until NOW...
Try the new BETA firmware and it will work !
Veliferum
Not really.....still the same, even with the new beta :-(
Dennisg_nl
31-03-09, 23:42
@Binnerup
Have you planned to do something with the .Back.aai also ? I'm testing it now and the files for the TViX work nice. Only thing missing is the background for the Dune.
HDI_fw_dev
01-04-09, 20:07
@okieh2002:
> > BDMV and VIDEO_TS where not supported until NOW...
> > Try the new BETA firmware and it will work !
> Not really.....still the same, even with the new beta
media_url pointing to folders containing BDMV/VIDEO_TS subfolders should work in the latest beta. If it does not work for you, please provide more detailed information.
@Binnerup,
Could you check your pm? There seems something wrong with my bonuspoints for my movies.
Kind regards.
Mart.
Edit: Thanks Binnerup for your help! I have them now.
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