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shandong
22-01-10, 10:21
http://bbs.hd-h264.net/attachments/month_1001/1001141921150c76a16e4cef76.jpg
http://www.mysilu.com/attachments/day_100117/1001170344833bb2693f487091.jpg.thumb.jpg

It was installed PCH-C200 FW, HAHA, the price about $230-$250,


So, A200 can update the fw of C200 in future.

shv
06-02-10, 19:48
This picture seams to shows the Egreat EG-R2A. There are two additional devices: EG-R1 and EG-R1B. But in the description you could read that these devices are clocked with just 400MHz (see: http://www.egreatworld.com/en/Product.asp)

tertm141
07-03-10, 01:41
http://bbs.hd-h264.net/attachments/month_1001/1001141921150c76a16e4cef76.jpg
http://www.mysilu.com/attachments/day_100117/1001170344833bb2693f487091.jpg.thumb.jpg

It was installed PCH-C200 FW, HAHA, the price about $230-$250,


So, A200 can update the fw of C200 in future.

Are we able to get hold of the review of the M3? From the taiwan website, seems quite good, practically supporting all HD audio, its metal, fanless, n hot pluggable for the 3.5in HDD, got deep color, full Blu-ray ISO menu, its using the 8643 chipset.
http://www.hd.club.tw/thread-37050-1-1.html

shv
07-03-10, 08:04
The firmware of the Allure M3 looks something similar to the Dune firmware now...

Hi-Jack
07-03-10, 11:28
http://bbs.hd-h264.net/attachments/month_1001/1001141921150c76a16e4cef76.jpg
http://www.mysilu.com/attachments/day_100117/1001170344833bb2693f487091.jpg.thumb.jpg

It was installed PCH-C200 FW, HAHA, the price about $230-$250,


So, A200 can update the fw of C200 in future.
One would be stupid to buy it. Import taxes would be added, shipping and media tax that can run up. Then comes support backup which you likely don't have or will be very costly, in no way the License to play BluRay can be moved via cloning and so on... so I don't see any value in this player directly at all, even with the C-200 firmware and then even the issues with memory, specs and remote being different...

shv
07-03-10, 19:33
... in no way the License to play BluRay can be moved via cloning and so on...

Each time somebody is speaking about License s/he classifies itself not to have much knowledge in software business.

First of all a license is just a legal issue which means to have payed for certain functionality which is embedded in the SW. If there is no further protection in this SW the function will also work if this SW is flashed on a different HW. So the function will work without having the necessary license for it in the foreign HW. "A license will never be moved by cloning and so on!"

If a certain FW works on a foreign HW I don't expect further protection for e.g. the functionality to play Blu Ray images or directories including complete menus. If some protection would be intended the company would protect completely such FW to work on foreign HW and not just the playing of menus. But it could occur that some specific environment which is necessary is not available on the forein HW so that either a functionality don't work or just a part of it. It could occur that resets are produced if certain functions are used and the necessary environment is not available.

To play comercial protected Blu Rays some secure keys are necessary. These keys could be embedded in the firmware or in a certain key memory or security device. If these secure keys are embedded in the firmware also the ability to play comercial Blu Rays would be available if a firmware is flashed on a foreign HW. In the other cases where this keys are not embedded in the firmware the foreign player will not get the ability to play protected Blu Rays because the secure keys will not be available.

During the lifetime of the player it could happen that the secure keys must be renewed. In the case where the keys are embedded in the firmware just a new firmware must be flashed onto the HW. In the other cases a new firmware will be provided which can update the keys in the key memory or secure device.

I don't beleave that there are different security keys necessary to play protected Blu Rays with external players which are connected to ESATA or USB. If USB Blu Ray drives can not be used the only reason is that the necessary functionality is just not yet available or the company don't want to pay effort and/or money to implement this functionality.

Antila
07-03-10, 20:32
To play comercial protected Blu Rays some secure keys are necessary. These keys could be embedded in the firmware or in a certain key memory or security device.
The Macrovision’s copy protection is not in the firmware but in the chipset, isn't it?

shv
07-03-10, 21:06
The Macrovision’s copy protection is not in the firmware but in the chipset, isn't it?

Yes, Macrovision is part of Sigma 8642 processor. But Macrovision is not directly needed to play protected Blu Rays from any drive. It might be part of requirements to get Blu Ray license for a player that analog video outputs needs to be protected with Macrovision that recording is not possible with video or DVD recorders. This might also be fulfilled if analog outputs are switched of while playing of protected BDs.

Macrovision adds just an interfering signal to the analog output signal.

Antila
07-03-10, 21:17
Yes, Macrovision is part of Sigma 8642 processor. But Macrovision is not directly needed to play protected Blu Rays from any drive. It might be part of requirements to get Blu Ray license for a player that analog video outputs needs to be protected with Macrovision that recording is not possible with video or DVD recorders. This might also be fulfilled if analog outputs are switched of while playing of protected BDs.
Ahh, so that explains why some players (e.g. the C-200) with the SMP8643 can play comercial protected Blu-Rays. Thanks for the clearification.