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Anyone knows anything more ?
http://www.hughsnews.ca/sigma-powers-dvico-based-connected-media-player-0012146
When is it to reach the market ?
It will be nice if it can come to market before the end of the year.
Nice to finally have an official statement about Dvico releasing a sigma 8656 based player!
Btw, topic moved away from realtek forums :wink:
Nice to finally have an official statement about Dvico releasing a sigma 8656 based player!
Absolutely! Boy, if they can make fly what they're touting, we may finally have a true successor to the 6500!
Y
Some info from distributor but not finalise:
1. USB3.0 host
2. HDMI V1.4, support 3D movie
3. Support wireless keyboard for surfnet
Target Nov. sample out first and Dec mass production and most probably distribute early next year.
Some info from distributor but not finalise:
1. USB3.0 host
2. HDMI V1.4, support 3D movie
3. Support wireless keyboard for surfnet
Target Nov. sample out first and Dec mass production and most probably distribute early next year.
To all of the items - bullshit.
Guys, please tell me where you get this delirium information? Why you have merged this here? What for?
The Sigma 8656 will support 3D graphics but NOT 3D movies! Do not hang the noodles on the ears!
To all of the items - bullshit.
Guys, please tell me where you get this delirium information? Why you have merged this here? What for?
The Sigma 8656 will support 3D graphics but NOT 3D movies! Do not hang the noodles on the ears!
At this point, it's all rumor, and if you re-read carefully, even SiaoNiu pointed out "not finalise". Let's wait and see what DViCo actually brings to the table before we bow down at their alter or cast stones. :wink:
Y
chilidog_uk
16-10-10, 17:42
To all of the items - bullshit.
Guys, please tell me where you get this delirium information? Why you have merged this here? What for?
The Sigma 8656 will support 3D graphics but NOT 3D movies! Do not hang the noodles on the ears!
Think you wanna check your facts Neverhood :-P stops you looking like a dumbass, Sigma 8656 supports 3D graphics AND generic side-by-side and top-bottom output, RealD (side-by-side output), Sensio (side-by-side output) 3D video formats..... but it doesnt support HDMI 1.4, its integrated with 1.3a.
link to Sigma 8656 product - features & benifits columns shows the capabilities of the chip http://www.sigmadesigns.com/products.php?id=120
I can tell you this is true because I already knew about this from DViCO.
1. They will be going back to Sigma for their future model.
2. They will be developing TViX with Googles Android OS which as we know is open source and apps and features can be community developed. This in theory should allow for faster maturity of the product as anyone can contribute to the development, not just DViCO.
Is it just me, or does calling it the first "Over the Top (OTT)" media player make this release seem like a joke? Hehe... Any thoughts on what the intended meaning of such a term is?
Is it just me, or does calling it the first "Over the Top (OTT)" media player make this release seem like a joke? Hehe... Any thoughts on what the intended meaning of such a term is?
Just a little search on Google gives a lot of hits, but in summary it stands for:
Over-the-top (OTT) refers to the delivery of Internet-based multimedia content to the TV over a broadband connection. Content producers, service providers, device manufacturers, alike, are all seeking to create a new OTT video distribution channel for on-demand, Internet-based digital entertainment.
Hmmm, what an odd choice of terminology then :) Seems like something along the lines of On-Demand-Distribution (ODD) would be much more suited to the task... To me, Over-the-Top does not connote anything remotely along those lines. :|
Hmmm, what an odd choice of terminology then :) Seems like something along the lines of On-Demand-Distribution (ODD) would be much more suited to the task... To me, Over-the-Top does not connote anything remotely along those lines. :|
Sounds like typical marketing terminology and spin to me ;)
Y
3dbd will not be available. Notice that the os will likely be locked and only an API will be available for developers so we may still not be able improve on the way the player works and only have access to extra applications developed. It sure is interesting but hen again, Android running on sigma platform which is not as mature as they say, may have it's issues in speed and performance just like the regular players that will be based on the sigma new line chipsets.
We get more application and games loaded onto the players but do we get better media abilities beyond video which will remain the main reason we buy these players? If for the love of apps and android, there are other products and cheaper ones to acquire... We have been talking to several brands on android and media players and generally the trend will go to portable units with android or android being loaded on the side just like the HDX Bone does (DviCo is not first to include Android but may be the first making Android the major OS on their system).
I am pretty sure it comes with it's own set of challenges and I do not immediately see the major benefit of it against regular media players but I let myself be surprised about what Dvico can do with it...
Yeah, i also in a course of that that the Dvico is in a go back to Sigma.
chilidog_uk
You think i`m dumbass looking? Seems to me no , adding such kind of foolish information - this is the real dumbass. What i really meant is HDMI 1.4 and USB 3.0.
Regarding this itching 3D: the phrase was "HDMI V1.4, support 3D movie" have a look, in one line. This is the the main thing which makes me smile. Why create such a gossip? Yes it (8656) will support the generic 3D video but no real 3D video (BD 3D i mean). Thats why i was so rude.
Neverhood.
Slightly offtopic
Does tvix working on android based sigma chipset player mean that there will be no further development of their existing realtek based players?
Of course not. They are still developing existing models.
Is there a way to become a beta tester or an "early-buyer"?
The DViCO/Sigma/Android bundle worth the risk to buy a still-in-development unit.
Forgot to mention I've some (little) experience in Android programming...
a little more info in Dutch about the new Xroid presentation at the CES:
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/71830/ces-tvix-bouwt-op-android-draaiende-mediaspeler.html
Short video of the new TViX A1 at CES
http://youtu.be/1p0qdKuSbIk
from CES 2011
http://www.digitalversus.com/ces-2011-we-ve-got-all-news-live-from-las-vegas-article-1157.html
Does it has a Dual Tuner like Slim S1 Duo? (optional or embedded?)
can someone post overall specs? or where see them.
thank you
potenza1985
12-02-11, 12:59
Any news about price and release?
potenza1985
12-02-11, 15:16
Does it has a Dual Tuner like Slim S1 Duo? (optional or embedded?)
can someone post overall specs? or where see them.
thank you
Don't know if it's official,but in this video at 1:50 you can see a PVR option
http://www.youtube.com/user/LesNumeriques#p/u/13/FCcglLSqkAA
Thank you, seems that the PVR will be available, also the guy speak about it a little.
When this item will be available?
What about network intereface? will be more fast than tvix-m6500?
I need to replace my tvix-m6500 at its 3Th year of work.
thank to all.
Estimated release is March-April but it all depends on the firmware.
mercuryrev
15-02-11, 14:46
Thank you, seems that the PVR will be available, also the guy speak about it a little.
When this item will be available?
What about network intereface? will be more fast than tvix-m6500?
I need to replace my tvix-m6500 at its 3Th year of work.
thank to all.
I should replace my 6500 at the same time too. According to the sigma design component datasheet, the ethernet interface should be gigabit. So it should be much faster than the 6500 which is megabit (and a slow one BTW)
If it does not support 3D movies (HDMI High Speed, also known as 1.4) or 'out of the box' DTS/Dolby HD (lossless and the like) audio and also gigabit ethernet port then why even bother releasing this ?
If they want to get back into the market in a big way then offer what people want (okay the 3D to me is a 'wank' feature)
I'm happy with my 6600 (except for only 4 network shares and the tvixie artwork has to be in 'movie' or 'video' folders)
I can also live without the internet on my media player (others can't) and apps ? really ?
Well I'll wait till the next company offers a device with high speed HDMI and all the lossless audio in one :D
The Xroid will be using the Sigma SMP8656 Chipset:
http://www.sigmadesigns.com/uploads/documents/SMP8650_br.pdf
According to the product brochure, the SMP8656 supports Gigabit LAN.
Supported Technologies
Supports Linux, WinCE, Android™ OS
AVCHD, DVD-Video, DVD-R/-RW/+R/+RW, CD/-R/-RW, Picture CD (JPEG) media formats
ATSC, DVB, ARIB, and IPTV
Audio DSP supports wide variety of audio codecs
Security CPU supports wide variety of conditional access (CA) and digital rights management (DRM) solutions, solutions, including Nagravision NOCS v1.1, NDS ICAM v2.2a, NDS VGS
Audio Decoding
Dolby
- Dolby Digital
- Dolby Digital Plus
- Dolby TrueHD
• DTS
- DTS
- DTS LBR
- DTS-HD HR
- DTS-HD MA
• MPEG
• WMA, WMA Pro
• AAC, HE-AAC
• DRA (China)
• FLAC
Video Decoding
1.25x HD decoding
MPEG-4.10 (H.264) BP@L3, MP@L4.0, HP@L4.0
SMPTE 421M (VC-1) MP@HL, AP@L3
WMV9 MP@HL
MPEG-2 MP@HL
MPEG-4.2 ASP@L5 (up to HD, 1-point GMC)
AVS Jizhun profile@L2.0, 4.0, 6.0
DV (IEC 61834 and SMPTE 314M)
RMVB v9, v10
3D video support
Generic side-by-side and top-bottom output
RealD (side-by-side output)
Sensio (side-by-side output)
Video Processing
3D graphics accelerator with Open GL ES 1.1/2.0 support
Motion adaptive deinterlacing
Deblocking and deringing filters
Simultaneous HD, CIT-HD, and SD outputs
Individual brightness, contrast, saturation, hue, and colorimetry correction controls for each video source and output port
12-bit xvYCC processing
Integrated HDMI v1.3a with CEC, 12-bit deep color, xvYCC
If it does not support 3D movies (HDMI High Speed, also known as 1.4) or 'out of the box' DTS/Dolby HD (lossless and the like) audio and also gigabit ethernet port then why even bother releasing this ?
What do you think you're gaining with HDMI High Speed if you don't care about 3D? I don't think it will take much to get to 3D movies, but the other feature of HDMI 1.4, the network connection is never going to be available...not that it adds anything.
Edit: Ooop, I guess 3D movies are already in the specs.
Any news on the release date? This little box looks very interesting.
It is supposed to be available for consumer purchase sometime in April. Stock is meant to be shipping sometime in March to suppliers.
miracle9999
11-03-11, 05:59
anybody know price of Android A1? :confused:
Another player using Android as OS is the Fusion XS. This player is using a Marvell 88DE3010 chip instead of Sigma SMP8656. Are these chips powerfull enough to run Android?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4214/nixeus-fusion-xs-brings-marvell-into-the-dma-market/1
No price for TViX A1 yet...
Marvel is an unproven contender in the Media Player arena, I would prefer to have something reliable like a Sigma player...
No price for TViX A1 yet...
Marvel is an unproven contender in the Media Player arena, I would prefer to have something reliable like a Sigma player...
I agree...Sigma is one of the best, if not the best.
Very silent, considering launch in April.
Have not found a single internet shop where you can pre-book, price indications..... nothing.
maybe it will be delayed.
Maybe because today is April fool, they want to avoid this date :)
I'm sure it will be delayed (we're now into April with no real vendor announcements) And I'd prefer it that way as long as they nail down the initial firmware.
Y
Yes, it has been delayed.
I still havent received my sample unit for testing yet..
Can now be preordered.
http://www.webhallen.com/hardvara/137855-tvix_xroid_a1_forhandsbokningserbjudande
Anywhere else for sale yet?
Mixu
dont bother buying these tvix it sucks firmware is crap and no new one have had all tvixes sinse 5100 and this is the worst the shiped a device that only does what the n1 does minus coverart and appstore is a big joke the sharing bettween tvixes dont work mount points keeps disapering and on the android side havent been able to get any apk thats not divcos to work and the final blow was when i asked for flash support the said it was a complicated licence issue so it will probably not be avelible what good is android without flash support thought divco would have learned by now so basicly u get a very xpensive tvix n1 with bader firmware
dont bother buying these tvix it sucks firmware is crap...
Well. I was quite happy with my original 6500 and now with the 6600 and the N1 in the bedroom. Since I do like Android operating systems, it will be an interesting combo to have it incorporated in to a media player.
I don't think anybody is waiting for the full Android experience from this unit, since that is not the intention. There is always room for improvement on the firmware side of these players. Unfortunately that seems to be the nature of the business.
I am willing to give it a try.
Mixu
dont bother buying these tvix it sucks firmware is crap and no new one have had all tvixes sinse 5100 and this is the worst the shiped a device that only does what the n1 does minus coverart and appstore is a big joke the sharing bettween tvixes dont work mount points keeps disapering and on the android side havent been able to get any apk thats not divcos to work and the final blow was when i asked for flash support the said it was a complicated licence issue so it will probably not be avelible what good is android without flash support thought divco would have learned by now so basicly u get a very xpensive tvix n1 with bader firmware
a lot of bullshit in just a few lines
have u tried it do so before u say something and still no new firmware
have u tried it do so before u say something and still no new firmware
I have one and I'm not sure what you are talking about with the cover art, works fine for me. As for the "still no new firmware" comment, I'm not sure what you mean, but the firmware has been coming steady since the samples were sent out. There has not been any new firmware in the last few weeks, but I suspect they are polishing it up in time for the next production release.
But I do agree, if you want it to perform as the current TViX unit, you should wait until the firmware is more developed.
Is there any news when this player will be released
its alrady out but dont bother buying it untill there over 1.5 verison firmware for at the moment its the worst tvix out there
Could somebody test if Spotify works on this, please.
I am trying to choose between this one and the new Popcorn Hour 300.
I am very interested in Popcornhours automatic movie cover and subtitle download features. But since I'm a big fan of Android and currently using Tvix 6600, the A1 is on the radar also.
Mixu
spotify dont work neither do any thing that uses flash or adobes verison so on the android side its uselles a little more stable but it got all the bugs that previous tvixes had when the realesed them wich is quite wierd i think
I was just checking the spec of the new XROID and noticed that they dropped the cable/OTA TV tunner, so when they come up with one that has the tunner and built in wifi and full 3DHD iso playback I will buy one, for now I'm happy with my 6620.
DVICO, worst support ever seen...
No more firware upgrade, last one was released in Feb 2012, many bugs still there, many features disabled (like screensaver) awaiting for next FW release, that never come out.
Stay away from DVICO, this is my last TviX media player :evil:
Really pity as the hardware side seems to be quite ok in Xroid. I really wonder what are they doing in Dvico/TViX as nothing seems to happen...
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