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lazarus
06-12-03, 13:08
I am a noob to Kiss player. But have used linux for a while. I wonder if trying to update kiss with modified firmware and the update fails for some reason. Is it possible to recover by flashing older firmware known to be ok. I know if flashing the mobo of a pc fails it can render the mobo useless.
If the sw on the kiss that boots the cd and does the flashing is not overwritted all should always be ok.
Anyone have any idears.

bzizou
06-12-03, 13:46
Like you, I'm a linux expert, but not a Kiss expert... I wondered it too... In my opinion, the software that makes the flashing is on the CD. So, if you flashed with bad firmware, I think there's no problem because you just have to boot with a CD containing a good firmware to re-flash. I hope that the software part that makes the kiss booting to a boot CD is hardcoded and that it is not part of the firmware. It's only an hypothetic answer :-)
(Sorry for my poor english speaking)

Hi-Jack
06-12-03, 13:47
Yes...

If the firmware is no good, it won't even start flashing and give error 11.
When te firmware can be flashed and the player can not load correctly due to mistakes in the firmware, you can reflash it with another one.

Only if the current flash is erased and something wrong happens (like power outage) the player might not boot from another firmware.

(I flashed about 100 times without a problem and many firmwares where beta with loads of faults in it...)
GrEeTz

ak.
06-12-03, 16:28
the worst thing that happened to me is that i was unable to open the dvd drive. just opened the player, put the dvd drive out of the player and pressed it original open button. inserted good fw and flashed. after that everything was fine.

Hi-Jack
06-12-03, 16:30
There's another trick to that without opening the Kiss...

Shutdown the player, wait 20 seconds, push the eject button and keep it pressed while you power on.

It shoul open the player. 8)

Dunno if you tried that before opening the player so...
Just a tip for the future to all...

ak.
06-12-03, 16:35
tried but somehow didn't help. screwdriver was the last help. But it worked! :-)

lazarus
06-12-03, 17:34
Thanks for the replies. I will start to experiment now!

bzizou
06-12-03, 18:02
I had the same problem, drive closed and player not booted. Wiaiting 20s before turning on while pressing the open button didn't help. But turnig it off and on fastly, but not too much, about 1/2s off) while pressing the open button worked! I had to try several times to have the good timing.Strange, but efficient for me :-)