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Hi-Jack
27-04-06, 15:28
Hi All,

Has been a little silent around DP-600 FW updates and all has to do with
me being unable to flash new Beta FW on my unit. Yet, we have some news
for you, as KiSS has announced the new FW is due next Tuesday...

Issues fixed:
* HDMI
* Stability Media Connect
* USB Speed Improvements
* Drive Noise DVD

So, less then a week away to see what KiSS delivers next!
Stay tuned :-)

Enjoy
hi-Jack

Lord_Kiron
27-04-06, 16:16
GeluidWhat ?;)

Lord_Moron
27-04-06, 16:37
Hey HiJack, what else is going to be fixed?

Region free?

Any version number on the release news?

djcla
27-04-06, 16:37
GeluidWhat ?;)
wondered that myself?

Lord_Kiron
27-04-06, 16:45
GeluidWhat ?;)
wondered that myself?

Well I of cause can assume that this is some kind of software technology ported to ucLinux to reduce DVD drive speed and there for noise level but thats just assumption, Hi-Jack - dig more for us !;)

Big
27-04-06, 16:51
Well I of cause can assume that this is some kind of software technology ported to ucLinux to reduce DVD drive speed and there for noise level
The only such tool available today is called setcd and sets few oparational parameters (including drive speed). Maybe it's their own new tool or maybe name if drives inside DP-6000?

Mads_M
27-04-06, 17:03
"GeluidDrive"

There aren't many technologies that return ZERO hits on Google.

nws
27-04-06, 17:14
Issues fixed:
* HDMI
* Stability Media Connect
* USB Speed Improvements
* GeluidDrive Noise DVD



Are those 4 fixes just what you have tested (confirmed) or will be?

I hope there will be more fixes than only those 4 ...

The Bug-thread after fw 3.0.14 is quite long ...

marcog
27-04-06, 17:33
"GeluidDrive"

There aren't many technologies that return ZERO hits on Google.

If you search for "Geluid" you find it is a Dutch word meaning Sound. So there's your answer.

blixa
27-04-06, 23:15
Meanwhile I keep mine switched off due to the horrible noisy DVD drive. Thinking seriously to move it to the next room ( that means an HDMI 6 mts long cable and the same for the coaxial one) :cry: :cry: :oops:

EddieZ
28-04-06, 01:47
I put it in a semi-closed drawer with doors, just like my other equipment. Keeps the wife satisfied (out of sight) and keeps the noise level (which is in my case not very loud) down. Meanwhile it still gives me 98% connection strength on wireless (staircase and 2 walls in between).

blixa
28-04-06, 02:17
In my case a safe-box needed :roll:

candymanlux
28-04-06, 06:46
I would certainly hope that playback of SVCD (MPG) files is fixed as well ... it worked before the .14 upgrade so ... :twisted:

PvAalst
28-04-06, 09:44
Hi-Jack,

Any news on the many problems reported about DVD playback.

I am very satisfied about the DP600, because I build a movie archive, mostly with self made home video's. With a few software tools it works well on the external USB drive.

But my girlfriend only wants to use the DVD drive. Most DVD's are not played well on the DP600. I mean lost of sound, stuttering video etc. She already hates the device. And I must say, however I am a fan of Kiss, she is right. How is it possible that normal DVD playback is not working well. For a device that cost more than 300 Euro's.

At first I want to change my old DVD player, because I started to give problems with some DVD's. So I bought the Kiss DP600 and was very pleased with all the other functions. Now I must take the conclusion that my old DVD player does play DVD's better than my new Kiss DP600. And that is a conclusion I never expected.

My question is how about your tests for this problem and has this problem the attention of Kiss?

Hi-Jack
28-04-06, 09:45
Geluid means SOUND in Dutch...
I forget to remove a Dutch word...

Man, you guys seriously have fantasy :-)

The region free will be released after the FW release.
The version number will be at least 3.0.23 or higher (current beta is 3.0.22)

pippomostarda
28-04-06, 15:27
Hi-jack do you know anything about large wmvhd files playback problems in next fw revision?

a5ian300zx
28-04-06, 23:06
Hi-jack do you know anything about large wmvhd files playback problems in next fw revision?

i need this fix too, as none of my large HD movies works properly, stutters and crashes i hope they fix that, thats one thing i need fixing the most.

T

Mads_M
28-04-06, 23:56
Yeah, considering how much you paid for those movies.

nielsvo
29-04-06, 00:24
Now I must take the conclusion that my old DVD player does play DVD's better than my new Kiss DP600. And that is a conclusion I never expected.
It's a KiSS so why should you expect something different? :twisted:
Until now, reality is that KiSS has never by far exceeded expectations :cry:

a5ian300zx
30-04-06, 00:22
Yeah, considering how much you paid for those movies.

lol i have ordered a few on wmv hd but like i said before you tell me where to buy them from and i will as i prefer to have chapters on the HD movies etc...

PvAalst
30-04-06, 00:58
Now I must take the conclusion that my old DVD player does play DVD's better than my new Kiss DP600. And that is a conclusion I never expected.
It's a KiSS so why should you expect something different? :twisted:
Until now, reality is that KiSS has never by far exceeded expectations :cry:

Nielsvo,

I do not agree with you at all. Except from the DVD playback issues, the Kiss is a wonderfull device. On my USB device I manage all my pictures, my home made video's and commercial movies. This works great. I also like the webradio, that works also without any complaints.

You have the right to give your opinion on these forums, but come with facts and not with a statement without arguments. Thanks

EddieZ
30-04-06, 01:19
Have to admit, after one non-functional device I am now satisfied about the player. Still some loose ends, but that can be fixed by new firmware.

PS: I would not buy a car in this state, but hey, the KiSS is only for entertainment (as is every other kiss :-) .

blueray
01-05-06, 23:12
Can We expect KISS DP-600 FW tomorrow ?

djcla
02-05-06, 08:04
well it's the big day fingers crossed :D

pippomostarda
02-05-06, 10:27
I hope they solved hd files playback too. Fingers crossed :?

Lord_Kiron
02-05-06, 10:48
Make sure your legs crossed ;)

lonely1
02-05-06, 14:20
i am regularly looking at the kiss technology website today, but i am afraid the firmware would not be released today, its taking to long

drakpzone
02-05-06, 15:10
afair 3.0.14 was out at late evening (cet)... anyway... one day or two more is no big issue..

HighDeff
02-05-06, 15:15
Geluid means SOUND in Dutch...

Or in English...fart.. :D :D

n0ahg
02-05-06, 16:02
They have about 4 hours before I have to pack the unit up for a refund. But I'm not keeping my finders crossed for any audio fixes in this firmware :-(

lonely1
02-05-06, 16:12
I just hope this firmware will fix the biggest need of good dvd (HD) playback, if not i foresee a bad system that can't play as good as the snazzio 1350

Hi-Jack
02-05-06, 16:32
It seems like no update today...
I received info a new Beta is becoming available today from kISS and that
means indirectly there's no final release...

Nothing i can do about it...
In waiting mode again...

AreaScout
02-05-06, 16:56
Hi

tzzzz... i don't like such news :(

RG

n0ahg
02-05-06, 17:37
Oh well, now I play the waiting game to get my money back. At least they confirmed there was a problem in email so I shouldn't have to fight too much with Komplett.

Dave27
02-05-06, 18:00
dam was hoping for update tday , ohh well can always wait

jointhedarkside
02-05-06, 18:15
KISS my a**

Dave27
02-05-06, 18:43
no thanx dunn wat bloke has been up there ;) heh j/k

pippomostarda
02-05-06, 19:23
It seems like no update today...
I received info a new Beta is becoming available today from kISS and that
means indirectly there's no final release...

Nothing i can do about it...
In waiting mode again...

No problem if they solve hd files problems...

Lord_Kiron
02-05-06, 19:37
Damn , and I almost prepared to see "usual cycle" :

1. Firmware released at Friday late night.
2. A lot of happy "thank you" post for couple of days.
3. After several days slowly more and more posts from people found new bugs, things that worked before work no longer, also some disapointed posts since new firmware fixes only small part of the expected thing.
4. Wait for next firmware started ...

I so this "KiSS drill" so long over and over again with all playes so I will be really surprised to see something different this time.

EddieZ
02-05-06, 20:37
We can all go back to sleep again :(

digiflip
02-05-06, 21:42
wat baskets no firmware was released today not by kiss nor hijack, empty promises, hijack wont even give us the region free codes.

Mads_M
02-05-06, 21:57
Hi-Jack doesn't realease kiSS firmware, much like he doesn't release the new version of Windows.

EddieZ
02-05-06, 23:06
PLease respond to support@kiss-technology.com

If you are lucky you will get an answer before firmware version 8.x

digiflip
03-05-06, 01:06
hi if hi-jack has beta firmwares he can distrubute them to rest of us.
he chooses not too, so hes not very good then is he.

Mads_M
03-05-06, 04:39
Not very good? How about giving him a little credit for what all the work he does? And about beta firmwares, maybe KiSS doesn't want Hi-Jack to distribute beta firmwares. Why would you want them anyway.

lonely1
03-05-06, 08:57
yes and watch out if you install a beta firmware you can't remove them when you want to update with another firmware again. that problem had Hi-jack encountered too. just wait and see, why is that so hard for you people?

EddieZ
03-05-06, 09:00
It's very normal that beta-testers like Hi-Jack do not distribute the beta-versions to the public. If he does, KiSS will skip him next time.

How would you like your player to be crashed by a not so perfect version? I guess you would blame Hi-Jack for releasing a beta-product!

Hi-Jack
03-05-06, 09:18
We deffinately not release it and if a Beta breaks my player, it will become
replaced. We just received a new beta version 3.0.23 with again progress
made in stability. We'll try flashing our unit tonight with a special method
and take up our reports from there.

Hopefully tonight, we'll be able to confirm most burning issues and advice
KISS to release the FW as soon as possible. We not want people to wait
much longer for these improvements as they initially where promised 1 or 2
weeks after the 3.0.14 release...

To be continued...

n0ahg
03-05-06, 12:21
Well they missed the boat and my unit is in the post for a refund. I will also be recommending to anyone who asks to avoid this product and company at all costs and I have at least 8 friends waiting on my feedback who were ready to purchase lol

a5ian300zx
03-05-06, 14:17
Well they missed the boat and my unit is in the post for a refund. I will also be recommending to anyone who asks to avoid this product and company at all costs and I have at least 8 friends waiting on my feedback who were ready to purchase lol


your not wrong there, i regret it too at the moment. if the new firmware does not fix my issues then im gona try to get a refund but mine is been more than a month old would have got it sooner but most of that is on just waiting around for new firmware etc..



I should have went for custom built HTPC (Entertainment PC) much more functions and upgradable.

EddieZ
03-05-06, 15:17
Understandable emotion.

Boxes like the KiSS are the future. I might be the lucky owner of a more or less flawless KiSS, but in one or two years these mediaboxes will absolutely rule, esp. with new wireless techniques coming our way.

HTPC's are perhaps more flexible, nevertheless also those machines are also buggy when based on Windows and quite expensive if you want quality. And you definately have to move them out of sight. :P

tn1krr
03-05-06, 15:46
HTPC's are perhaps more flexible, nevertheless also those machines are also buggy when based on Windows and quite expensive if you want quality. And you definately have to move them out of sight. :P
I've been planning on making a mac Mini core solo based HTPC for some time now. Better overall OS and limited/controlled HW base should make it much easier build a stable system. And even a core solo boasts enough punch to decode 1080i H264 and it seems to be quite simple to configure to output pretty much any resolution that your plasma/LCD/beamer wants. Picture quality not propably quite up to par with Sigma chip based players. Small, silent, not that hugely expensive, all that is needed is a bit more development in the remote-controlled HTPC frontends. A VLC/mplayer plugin for Mediacentral would propably be enough to convince me.

AreaScout
03-05-06, 16:27
@Hi-Jack

Ok that means today we can also forget, i can't understand why Kiss writes things they can't keep

Thank you for contacting KiSS Networked Entertainment.

We will launch a new DP-600 firmware that will solves the last issues during middle of next week.

And this mail i get on 21.04, this are guys with no Handshake Guarantee

If they say:

.....
Thank you for contacting KiSS Networked Entertainment.

We can't tell you an Firmware release date yet, because we are working very hard to get a more stable build, many things are fixed right now in the new beta's but we wanna get the best result as possible for the next version
.....

Is this so hard ? And you are still in Handshake Guarantee

RG

wullie51
04-05-06, 19:33
If all you people got firmware that broke your machine you would complain. Because it's not released fast enough you complain.

Man, stop the bitchin' and build your own firmware.

I for one will wait untill it's tested, tested again, and again untill stable. Then I will upgrade.... Untill then. Cut kiss some slak.....


:P :P :P

blueray
04-05-06, 19:49
wullie51:
Are You from KISS team ?

digiflip
04-05-06, 20:12
Hi wulie if you can teach us how to program, I would try, but since i dont know how to progam that be pretty hard.

Mads_M
04-05-06, 20:31
wullie51:
Are You from KISS team ?

Blueray, do you actually have anything to add to this forum besides accusations?

Hi wulie if you can teach us how to program, I would try, but since i dont know how to progam that be pretty hard.

How about you relax and wait for the official firmware to be released. There simply must be more important things in your life that requires your attention.

Lord_Kiron
04-05-06, 20:44
Mad_M, Is working for KiSS is crime ? ;)

Anyway, I too think that blueray should restrain his "entusiasm a bit, things are not so simple in life, if you disagree check any elections results :)

Mads_M
04-05-06, 21:30
Mad_M, Is working for KiSS is crime ? ;)

Of course not, but it's still an accusation because it implies that you're here under false pretences, with an agenda, trying to manipulate the board.

DougalDC
04-05-06, 22:00
personaly, i would like to see a kiss member on this forum, as at least then we would get a feeling as to what was going on,
but the likelyhood of anyone from kiss breaking cover is very low, as he would recieve soo much abuse from frustrated users.

Michael1t
04-05-06, 22:14
[quote="Hi-Jack"]We deffin

lately not release it and if a Beta breaks my player, it will become
replaced. We just received a new beta version 3.0.23 with again progress
made in stability. We'll try flashing our unit tonight with a special method
and take up our reports from there.

Hopefully tonight, we'll be able to confirm most burning issues and advice
KISS to release the FW as soon as possible. We not want people to wait
much longer for these improvements as they initially where promised 1 or 2
weeks after the 3.0.14 release...

To be continued...[/quote

Hi-Jack do we have a new releaase date yet ??? 3.0.23 ??
Thanks ...

AreaScout
04-05-06, 22:15
Hi all

For my person i am not a frustrated user because i was one of the lucky guys
where 80% of the problems peoples told here are not fiting to my DP-600.

But i hate when peoples are *issing on your leg ( sorry for that ) by telling you
an Firmware-Release date ( like Kiss does ) and there is none. I think this is what peoples generaly makes angry. If they tell me the trues, no problem for me to wait longer.

RG

Michael1t
04-05-06, 22:21
Hello Hi-Jack ...

How much would it cost to have a unit (DP-600) Shipped to
Lapper Mi USA ( 110 Volt Unit )

I was going to wait and Make sure the NEW FW works then I would
Like to order one that Has the NEW firmware and mods ...
If that is possible ... Because It will cost a lots to ship back if the DVD is
Nosiy or the firmware will NOT burn ECT ...

I was just hoping for Some of the Hi-Jack Luck ... in getting a good unit ...

Thanks in Advance ....

Michael T.

digiflip
04-05-06, 22:54
Hi HI-jack or other beta-tester's cant you release a beta firmware which dont lock up the dp 600 with the region free codes?

digiflip
04-05-06, 22:56
hi if not allowed to release ctea firmware. whats the news on iptv firmware update and how do u become an beta tester for kiss?

Lord_Kiron
04-05-06, 23:15
Hi HI-jack or other beta-tester's cant you release a beta firmware which dont lock up the dp 600 with the region free codes?

He can, but then he will not be beta tester any more. Do you want this ?

About your second question ... I would say forget it, best case - something like Tvonky otherwise ... wait for DP-700.

arcus
05-05-06, 16:19
Is downloading and installing 3.0.25 now.. Hope it is good :)

niva785
05-05-06, 16:42
Is downloading and installing 3.0.25 now.. Hope it is good :)

@arcus: Cool... where did you get it? On the KISS web page it is not available!

arcus
05-05-06, 16:45
Did use the check/update firmware function on the player.

niva785
05-05-06, 16:47
No, as I'm not home now. But I'll do ASAP... thank you very much for the info.
I'm really wondering how many bugs they resolved.

AreaScout
05-05-06, 17:04
...


Hi all


I can confirm this, 3.0.25 is on my Player now, happy weekend :)



RG

arcus
05-05-06, 17:16
http://www.joha.nu/bilder/firmeware.jpg

Now i just hope that someone can get the code to make this player region free..

Have a thai movie, Tom-Yum-Goong that i really would like to see soon ..

EddieZ
05-05-06, 17:20
Disappointed by the upgrade...more probs now than with 3.0.14. report experiences please in dedicated thread!