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Old 10-08-12, 17:07   #1
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Default Dune HD Smart H1 - Formatting

Dear Community,

I have found some similiar threads about the formatting of the internal HDD, however I would like to investigate what the current opinions are.

I am getting this HDD for my Dune HD Smart H1:
Seagate Barracuda Green 2TB (Cache 64 MB / 5900RPM / Sata 6Gb/s) ST2000DL003

1. Is this a wise choice of hdd?

2. Should I format it in my Dune or PC and what filesystem to use?

3. I would like to be able to use it with a USB SATA HDD Docking Station, can I use EXT2/EXT3 with Ext2Fsd Project (or ext2ifs?) using my docking station or is NTFS a must in this case?

4. Is there any problem relating to "overheating" using any particular filesystem?

All input is appreciated!

Thanks in advance!

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Old 11-08-12, 13:56   #2
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Default Re: Dune HD Smart H1 - Formatting

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1. Is this a wise choice of hdd?
Yes, any of the Green HDD's should be fine
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2. Should I format it in my Dune or PC and what filesystem to use?
Depends on where it will be used. If just connected to the Dune then format it on the Dune, but below you say.....
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3. I would like to be able to use it with a USB SATA HDD Docking Station, can I use EXT2/EXT3 with Ext2Fsd Project (or ext2ifs?) using my docking station or is NTFS a must in this case?
I would say it would be easier to format the HDD to NTFS as this is natively supported by both the PC and Dune.
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4. Is there any problem relating to "overheating" using any particular filesystem?
Not that I'm aware of - overheating is normally due to using a faster rpm HDD such as a 7200rpm that is more noisy and will produce more heat.

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Old 11-08-12, 15:57   #3
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Default Re: Dune HD Smart H1 - Formatting

Thank you for your input!

Yes, NTFS seems to be the superior choice for me, but I can't help but wonder about any potential benefits of using EXT2/EXT3 in comparison?
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Default Re: Dune HD Smart H1 - Formatting

There should be no problem using ext2/3 once you've installed ext2fsd on your windows machine. It's a bit of a hassle, but in my opinion it's worth it. If you look around, you'll see many topics regarding Dune problems with NTFS formatted drives, but virtually none about ext2/3 formatted drives.

Perhaps most of the differences have been resolved by now, but also keep in mind that the EXT filesystem is the native linux filesystem. NTFS was developed by microsoft for windows NT. It is only thanks to hackers who reverse engineered NTFS that linux can now support it.

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Default Re: Dune HD Smart H1 - Formatting

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There should be no problem using ext2/3 once you've installed ext2fsd on your windows machine. It's a bit of a hassle, but in my opinion it's worth it. If you look around, you'll see many topics regarding Dune problems with NTFS formatted drives, but virtually none about ext2/3 formatted drives.

Perhaps most of the differences have been resolved by now, but also keep in mind that the EXT filesystem in the native linux filesystem. NTFS was developed by microsoft for windows NT. It is only thanks to hackers who reverse engineered NTFS that linux can now support it.
Thanks for your reply, I have ordered the Dune HD Smart H1 and the Seagate Barracuda Green 2TB (Cache 64 MB / 5900RPM / Sata 6Gb/s) ST2000DL003 and not recieved any of them yet.

1. I would like to ask you if I in this case should format it in the Dune (or the PC?) and if I should use EXT2 or EXT3?

2. Also is there a "Full EXT2/EXT3 format" like the NTFS (quick vs. full option) for example? I would like to use a "Full" option to ensure the HDD is indeed fully functional.

3. Is there some particular setting with the "inode" that I should/can use? I have read about it somewhere...

4. So by using the Ext2Fsd software I should be able to connect my Dune in a USB SATA HDD Docking Station aswell as using the "USB-slave" option to my PC? I would like to be able to use this option along with the regular FTP-function of the Dune. I am using Windows 7 x64.


Thanks once more for all input in this thread by MarkE19 and Gennoise!

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Default Re: Dune HD Smart H1 - Formatting

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3. Is there some particular setting with the "inode" that I should/can use? I have read about it somewhere...
If you format it using the Dune, by default it formats it with fewer inodes, which means it expects you to store large files. If you try to store lots of tiny files, it will be a problem. But this way you get more space for your video files.
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Default Re: Dune HD Smart H1 - Formatting

Originally Posted by Emilio1 View Post
Thanks for your reply, I have ordered the Dune HD Smart H1 and the Seagate Barracuda Green 2TB (Cache 64 MB / 5900RPM / Sata 6Gb/s) ST2000DL003 and not recieved any of them yet.

1. I would like to ask you if I in this case should format it in the Dune (or the PC?) and if I should use EXT2 or EXT3?

2. Also is there a "Full EXT2/EXT3 format" like the NTFS (quick vs. full option) for example? I would like to use a "Full" option to ensure the HDD is indeed fully functional.

3. Is there some particular setting with the "inode" that I should/can use? I have read about it somewhere...

4. So by using the Ext2Fsd software I should be able to connect my Dune in a USB SATA HDD Docking Station aswell as using the "USB-slave" option to my PC? I would like to be able to use this option along with the regular FTP-function of the Dune. I am using Windows 7 x64.


Thanks once more for all input in this thread by MarkE19 and Gennoise!
1. Windows doesn't support formatting EXT filesystems so you must let the Dune format it. You won't notice much (if any) difference between ext2/ext3 formatted drives. If it's all the same to you, just go with EXT3.

2. There isn't, and I'd also like to add that the "full format" option for NTFS drives has no advantage over "quick format". I believe microsoft even removed the "full format" option from the windows installation wizard as of windows vista.

4. You only need ext2fsd to attach your drive to your windows machine (using the sata dock). You can still access the drive over FTP/SMB even without ext2fsd because of the way those protocols work.
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Default Re: Dune HD Smart H1 - Formatting

Thank you ScottJ97 and Gennoise!

1. Will the Dune be able to format the HDD to EXT3? Or is it only EXT2?

2. I read up on the "full format" and apparently it includes some kind of check for bad sectors while formating... is there a way to check for bad sectors on a ext2/ext3 (equivalent to chkdsk for windows) I want to make sure the HDD is fully functional when I finally get it. If so is it possible to initiate this check on a windows 7 x64 system using the ext2fsd software? (Dune HDD connected via USB HDD dock or using as USB-slave).
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1. You get to choose right before you format the drive.

2. The Dune has an experimental feature to check drives for errors.
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Default Re: Dune HD Smart H1 - Formatting

1. How do I perform this check in the Dune?

2. Also are there any other options which you might suggest in order to check if the newly purchased HDD is fully functional?

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