[Marc1968]

I think he means that currently the NMTs can't do better than 40Mbit. They can't saturate the 10/100 even. Maybe if an external more efficient networking chip takes over the networking task it will be better ???? I have no idea

[sodium]

Originally Posted by Marc1968 I think he means that currently the NMTs can't do better than 40Mbit. They can't saturate the 10/100 even. Maybe if an external more efficient networking chip takes over the networking task it will be better ???? I have no idea

Ok, but is there commercial/home use for more then 40 mbit video+audio that is the question.
The way I see it: in a BD Centre you load an HDD and start the services so you can upload content faster then 40-50 mbit. A BD Prime will be mostly used without the HDD and used for streaming and the occasional CD/DVD/BR...

My question: besides the casing difference will there be a hardware difference in either main board/power supply/BR drive etc.

[Hi-Jack]

One must understand the Denon and other high end players have additional chip do deinterlace and decode video differently thru these chips which enhance the video... Sigma is a good all round DVD performer but those with an eye for high quality will likely find differences in a player they owned say Denon and now go over to the BD Prime...

For normal eyeas, like mine, it make no freakin difference... I'm not into high quality so if it is a good image, i'm fine with it. DVD playback is similar to all other DMA players... As for BD-J, it will be slow as the sigma chip is not made for all that data handling... but they do play...

[Marc1968]

Originally Posted by Hi-Jack For normal eyeas, like mine, it make no freakin difference... I'm not into high quality so if it is a good image, i'm fine with it. ...

Just curious HJ: what kinda TV do you test NMT on?

[miken]

Originally Posted by Marc1968 I think he means that currently the NMTs can't do better than 40Mbit. They can't saturate the 10/100 even. Maybe if an external more efficient networking chip takes over the networking task it will be better ???? I have no idea

Yes, that is what I meant, the interface of the Sigma chips can by far not saturate
the 100Mbit link it offers. The Gbit ethernet card would be connected differently
and even so it probably also won't be able to even reach 100Mbit, it might be able to
make the difference between beeing able to watch a high bitrate film or not.

Some other players like the Conceptronic Cfullhdma have a Gbit interface for the same reason.

[sodium]

Originally Posted by miken Yes, that is what I meant, the interface of the Sigma chips can by far not saturate the 100Mbit link it offers. The Gbit ethernet card would be connected differently and even so it probably also won't be able to even reach 100Mbit, it might be able to make the difference between beeing able to watch a high bitrate film or not. Some other players like the Conceptronic Cfullhdma have a Gbit interface for the same reason.

I do not see your point... In My Humble Opinion ther are NO commercial or other video clips where the bitrate is higher then 42 mbit.
Please correct me if I am wrong. (and please point me to the source)

Yes, I see your point with a internal hdd (and to fill it you'll need an Gbit interface) BUT!
when there is no internal HDD ther is no need for an Gbit interface.

[Adamz]

Personally I would be interested in the HD Mini (Home Use).. I have not used a DVD for about 18 months (except on my PC) and am unlikely to do anything different with BluRay...

[jaco]

Originally Posted by sodium I do not see your point... In My Humble Opinion ther are NO commercial or other video clips where the bitrate is higher then 42 mbit. Please correct me if I am wrong. (and please point me to the source) Yes, I see your point with a internal hdd (and to fill it you'll need an Gbit interface) BUT! when there is no internal HDD ther is no need for an Gbit interface.

In Blu Ray spec the total bitrate for audio and video is 54Mbps
So it would be needed to be able to stream that bandwidth if you not want to remux all the 'backups' and strip the not wanted audio tracks

I would like this device to just play back 1:1 backups, i can spend time better than remuxing, and i do not care about file size. People with small harddisks should go watch DVD

[capitano]

Originally Posted by jaco I would like this device to just play back 1:1 backups, i can spend time better than remuxing, and i do not care about file size. People with small harddisks should go watch DVD

+1

[sodium]

Originally Posted by jaco I would like this device to just play back 1:1 backups, i can spend time better than remuxing, and i do not care about file size. People with small harddisks should go watch DVD

Totally agree! If a player forces me to remux content. it makes me to force the player to the bin...(within reasonable constraints)

Originally Posted by jaco In Blu Ray spec the total bitrate for audio and video is 54Mbps So it would be needed to be able to stream that bandwidth if you not want to remux all the 'backups' and strip the not wanted audio tracks

I have done some measurements on m2ts files but they all are below 45 mbit... I'll make some more backups to see if I can make higher bitrate files.

Thanks Jaco for making this clear

Question to the reviewers (or people with more insight) They (Syabas) did extensive testing with Gibit interfaces and it seemed that the 8634 could not hold up the timing (Ethernet clock) needed to feed a Gbit interface. Since HDi already have an working edition of this (they sell it) they have overcome this. If this is true this would mean that the 45mbit contraints on the 100Mbit interface are gone also....