[piuslor]

DP-558, Stage 2:

I am a Tinystocks EPG user since a couple of years. However, since a few days, accessing the tinystocks EPG from the KISS player won't work anymore.

After some troubleshooting, it seems that the epg.kml.kiss-technology.com server was finally decomissioned. Since KISS still accesses that website to check for the "Default EPG" (which in my case points to Tinystocks EPG), it won't be able to see any EPG data anymore.

Tinystock support curently checks with Cisco if anything can be done about this. In the meantime, I wonder if there is not another way to "redirect" or change the destination for EPG requests directly in the KISS.

I have the following ideas, but also questions:

Idea 1 - Redirect to tinystocks.com in /etc/hosts on KISS

Findings:

Redirect seems to work. However, at the destination IP there must be a file /tv/tvstart.php. In the original setup, that page would somehow serve the "Default EPG" URL, I believe. I tested with this entry here:
62.59.252.136 epg.kml.kiss-technology.com
(this points KISS requests to epg.kml.kiss-technology.com towards tinystocks.com instead. According to some LAN tracing with WireShark, that actually works.

An EPG request looks like this:

GET /tv/tvstart.php?PlayerID=<here is my Playser ID>&PlayerBrand=KiSS&PlayerModel=DP-558&PlayerLanguage=2&PlayerFirmware=117&ScreenWidt h=720&ScreenHeight=576&ScreenForm=4x3&UTC=7200&KML =2.1 HTTP/1.0
Host: epg.kml.kiss-technology.com <--- which is sent to 62.59.252.136, actually

Questions:
- Is the edit in /etc/hosts persistent? I am not really sure where such a change needs to be made so that it's staying across reboots..
- Anyone knows how tvstart.php "serves" the "Default EPG" URL?
- Would there be a server available (perhaps tinystocks.com itself?) which would take over that role?
- Since Tinystocks has a similar setup (http://tinystocks.com/k2/tv/tvstart.php) it only needs a virtual hosts setting on their server to serve directly /tv/tvstart.php? Although I am not sure if Tinystocks tvstart.php actually does the same...

Idea 2 - Configure the destination page http://tinystocks.com/k2/tv/tvstart.php directly in KISS

Findings:
I have no clue where on the KISS filesystem and in what file I would have to change the destination epg.kml.kiss-technology.com/tv/tvstart.php to http://tinystocks.com/k2/tv/tvstart.php.

Questions:
- any clue? hint?


daniel


PS. Yes, TSHelper would work. However, I do not have a PC running all the time at home. I'd rather not depend on yet another node on the LAN.

[Ad]

Hallo daniel,

Fortunately, I thought I was the only one with a (not working) dp558 .
After the problems last week, I thought the problem where on my site.
Later it turned out the link to a web site to be.
Unfortunately I had already formatted the kiss, and proved the necessary stage2 files not be loaded .... they are on a HTTP (S) site, and are not available with the wget command in the file setup.init. Eventually the whole thing got working again. (manual).
Excepted the link to tinistoks and others.
So I hope that more fighters are active, especially martinb.
I am not so good in busybox programming, so i can not help you

Regards, Ad.

[donconsolio]

Same here - player EPG dead for several days.

Not on stage2 - so probably even less ways to get it working again

[farmerz]

Same here.
Sorry daniel, I can't help you with your questions.
Does anyone know if the firmware update that was discussed by martinb and others in July 2010, came through? That was on its way to make the linksys server (that now seems to be switched off) redundant.

[piuslor]

I have not heard back from tinystocks support so far.

anyway, I believe that idea #1 might fly. beside editing the local KISS hosts file, there might be other possibilities for non-Stage2 with DNS spoofing or HTTP proxies or such. for that, one needs to have most likely a local linux box and some networking knowhow. on the other side it might be considered unethical to do this, since some of those techniques are often used by not-so-friendly guys...

the lucky ones have Stage2 and a simple edit of the /etc/hosts file.

anyway, this is only half of it. we also need a webserver serving the right .php files to do the forward/redirect to tinystocks. I was hoping tinystocks would offer to do this, since they might have the best knowledge on how that redirect actually works...

I for myself have limited knowledge on that side, I am afraid.



idea #2 really depends on FW that allows such a change. again, I am not the specialist here.


daniel

[gerhardo]

blueyed1 got stage2 reinstalled again:
http://www.mpcclub.com/forum/showpos...66&postcount=6

[awi]

Hi there,
i was suffered from same problem.
Finaly I managed to work arround.

I did
1. create a hosts-file in dp-558 (stage2) in /hdd/hosts
Content:
192.168.178.23 epg.kml.kiss-technology.com
127.0.0.1 localhost
The IP-Address above is the address of my internal linux server running apache for proxying

2. Add a copy command into /hdd/stage2/initstage2d at the end
/bin/cp /hdd/hosts /tmp
Note there is an existing symlink from /etc/hosts to /tmp/hosts

3. On my linux box apache server I created a 'Named-Virtual-Host'
<VirtualHost *:80>
ServerName epg.kml.kiss-technology.com
ServerAlias KissProxy
DocumentRoot /var/www
ProxyPass / http://tinystocks.com/k2/
ProxyPassReverse / http://tinystocks.com/k2/
</VirtualHost>

So any requests which comes to the box on port 80 but are addressed to epg.kml... gets redirected to tinystocks.com/k2/XXX where XXX is the original request.


Works fine for me so far...

[piuslor]

yessss! exactly something like this I had in mind when I was thinking about solution #1. thanks a lot awi. I was not aware that you can do something like this with a simple apache config.
now I am going to grab a decent micro-linux and let it run on my vmware server. then i will configure apache on it..
dan

Originally Posted by awi Hi there, i was suffered from same problem. Finaly I managed to work arround. I did 1. create a hosts-file in dp-558 (stage2) in /hdd/hosts Content: 192.168.178.23 epg.kml.kiss-technology.com 127.0.0.1 localhost The IP-Address above is the address of my internal linux server running apache for proxying 2. Add a copy command into /hdd/stage2/initstage2d at the end /bin/cp /hdd/hosts /tmp Note there is an existing symlink from /etc/hosts to /tmp/hosts 3. On my linux box apache server I created a 'Named-Virtual-Host' <VirtualHost *:80> ServerName epg.kml.kiss-technology.com ServerAlias KissProxy DocumentRoot /var/www ProxyPass / http://tinystocks.com/k2/ ProxyPassReverse / http://tinystocks.com/k2/ </VirtualHost> So any requests which comes to the box on port 80 but are addressed to epg.kml... gets redirected to tinystocks.com/k2/XXX where XXX is the original request. Works fine for me so far...

[ottosson]

I made the changes in the hosts file and intifile on the Killdevice and set up an apacheserver that redirected the request. I can now access the epg from the Kissdevice and add recordings, but now recordings are sent to the player even if the webinterface (myepg.tv) shows that recordings where sent to the device.

Could this have somethign to do with the player? Or did I configure the virtual host bad?

This is the only thing I have in my httpd-vhosts.conf

<VirtualHost *:80>
ServerName epg.kml.kiss-technology.com
ServerAlias KissProxy
DocumentRoot "c:/"
ProxyPass / http://tinystocks.com/k2/
ProxyPassReverse / http://tinystocks.com/k2/
</VirtualHost>

[zonker]

Same thing here - I have set up a proxy as described by AWI on my linux box, and everything works fine - EXCEPT this one thing: the recordings progammed from the web interface are _not_ received on the recorder.

On the apache logs I can see that epg requests (they seem to be in correct format) are sent from the Kiss every 15 minutes. I still haven't managed to get the return answer logged in apache as well - are there anyone that knows how to set up apache logging to do that? It might help to point out a solution.

The opposite way works fine though: all recordings programmed from the TV set interface shows up correctly on the web interface.

Very annoying! Does anyone have a clue?